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We do see the messages morphing into something new, and I am waiting to hear what (Redacted) has figured out now. He found a system that JT was using, and now wants to apply it to all the messages to see if he used it in any of them or all of them. In doing so, he should get confirmations of being on the right track, but for now I am waiting.
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Here's a 'round' area that might prove pertinent. Coordinates: 39.341158,-120.353846 on Google maps. There is another also very 'round' area near the base of the eastern peak. These would be visible from an low flying airplane. 
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The ciphered code in two different decoded messages from the same symbols indicate a lat and long that are identical, but different from what you have TerryB. I am not going to look for an area and then try to plot a location that might fit. I am going to let (Redacted)decode the locations, and check them out as he comes up with them.

I have already checked out the bus bomb location initially given, and realized that the new overpass for the 680 interchange is set just off to the south of the old freeway entrance and exit off of Green Valley road which is how one would have gotten off and onto the freeway back in the day, and this has helped (Redacted) to single in on another coded message that has led him to another location off of Green Valley Road. Will update when I know more.

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It is based on * work posted by you. Check it out, it will make sense when you see it.
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Being the trickster that JT was, I'd recommend that (Redacted) swap out or reverse certain symbols in the cryptogram, if you get what I mean.

Obviously the implication is to poetically connect Donna Lass to Donner Pass. That Sierra Club picture was derived at Incline Village, Nevada, it's called Forest Pines at Incline. It clearly has been altered to include JT's initial clue which I've circled. I'm not the first person to point this out. Let's see if the picture uploads works today. pttpcir.JPG  fphrc.GIF


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(Redacted) solve does fit except that the image used on the Sierra Club card is for a nearby area, otherwise I think his solve makes sense. I see another possible 'poetic' connection to the road sign seen at that location. The peak/peek involved is the one that makes sense because it has a large 'round' snowy depression right at the coordinates that I've indicated, there are 2ea on the base of that small mountain, there's at least one on the other one to the east. It does appear to be very rudimentary navigational instructions that (Redacted) has solved. Maybe LE was still stinging from the 340 cipher and didn't figure on an easy puzzle? Look at that first viewable peak, it's kinda spooky, it's Zodiac Jack 101
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Oh, it just dawned on me that as you'd stand on the peak, the 'around' in the snow upside down sentence would be somewhat at the same relative location as the snowy round spot. Get it?

JT would have gotten the prominent 'J" by simply raising the contrast on the original image of Incline Village. This is all prime real estate in the Lake Tahoe area, I see the big money angle once again.

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The Mount Boreal road exit appears to lead to trails up to the two mountains in question. Boreal......for real? Get it?
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The Vallejo community center, the bus bomb location and the Tahoe area in question appear to be on the same radian and tied together via Hwy 80. I can't tell if it's exactly the same radian but certainly close.

There's another prominent 'round' object in the snow on the trail on the way up to that mountain from the turnoff. Yeah, I think (Redacted) got it right. I'll bet her remains are in that area. The area may be very difficult to traverse in the winter?

From the aerial view, the area I've indicated at the base of that small mountain, it appears to be somewhat heart shaped. That would have meant something to JT.

I'm talking about the first peak you see from the road at exactly the point that (Redacted) solve takes you to.

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I am pretty sure that the solves are fitting right in with my research and following Jack around. I found 2 new killings sprees that I have to research, but they are exactly at the times when I lose track of Jack and he goes off the grid in his paperwork. I am finally to the Zodiac era in the research, and I can only tell you that it is exhausting!

TerryB, check out the new Zodiac thread. Things are coming to light, and I could probably answer just about any question on Jack asked, that is, if I wanted to lay it all out there. I am up to 12 Binders with much more to add yet.

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Wow, TerryB, I missed the postcard somehow. That is an awesome find. Yes, there appears to be a "J" added to an area that already appears to be a "t". I see it clearly...
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Nanette, by raising the contrast on the original, it may enhance that natural artifact. Perhaps it was altered further? I'll play with the original later on and report back at that time.

The fact that (Redacted) decoded instructions puts you precisely at the point where you can see that particular peak, coupled with the way that small mountain has that heart shaped inlet at the base and there's the term 'Boreal' which coincides with the Zodiac document term "For Real" and the heart shaped, roundish basin is located in the same quadrant as "Around in the snow" (which is upside down too, which denotes the perspective as viewed from the peak) and.....you have a location that is pass (past) the Lake Tahoe areas. It all adds up! I followed the trail from that road, it's a bit faint to see but still viewable from above, there is a large 'round' object not too far in on that same road or trail. BTW Google maps coordinates aren't always exact, but close.

However, it hinges on whomever the source of that particular poster came from. Perhaps it's a simply a compilation of info, but then why the snide inclusion in the text? Unless it from the killer?

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Donna Lass' remains could have been dug up by animals shortly after she was buried.  I recall watching an article about the cops finding part of the remains of one of the Manson families victims and there was evidence that the bones they found had been buried somewhere else and had been gnawed on by wild animals. So, Lass' remains may in fact be spread out by now.  
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