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As per **** request he wanted to see what Dennis showed me on how to find Jack name in Zodiac My Name Is: http://s809.photobucket.com/user/KKASES/media/photobucket-6280-1388104670112_zps1c7a6277.jpg.html?sort=6&o=0 Jack showed him how to lightly camoflauge letters by scribbling circles over the encircled letter. For decades, what looked like symbols in circles were Jacks lower case belltop A, E (hidden in sideways T in circle) lower case E, handwritten script Capital J. Simple word puzzles like these were in 1960s kids Highlights magazine. Book & ink printing process smudged & blanched out this Zodiac mystery set of letters. Anagram reads as NAMEJAKMYNAME or Name Ja(c)k My Name
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In response to ****** opinion on 408 gibberish having a badly mispelt anagram of "better" - I gladly disagree. Keep in mind that 1 of my contentions is the ciphers run together so I believe now bottom 18 is anagram cipher of BETTERHITEMEOHPITI or Better write me. Oh pity (340) you in fact got nothing....etc. Thanks **** for the fabulous work thats helping fill in gaps of Tarrance ZK mystery!
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Is it possible that since Zodiac (Jack) said he put his name in first cipher that since the words: the end appear in 340 after name, that the real complete 1st cipher is in more than 3 parts? In my opinion it is yes!
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I am beginning a thread for the other ciphers at this point because we seem to have a dualing pair that has different ideas of the ending, so I did not want to distract from the 340 solve.
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My only disagreement at this point on the attempted solves is where catseye attempts to claim that the 18 symbol anagram relates to the Zodiac saying, "better hope they write me!" I am not in anyway in agreement with this, and (Redacted) solve with the [sic - get] is more inline and in tune with what we would expect from the Zodiac. I have never seen the Zodiac request anyone to write him because there was no known address to write him at. LOL However; I believe that he requested other notable recognition say in wearing buttons or printing something in a paper. This is contradictory to catseye's find... I have heard in other cases, "Better hope it doesn't snow" and "better hope they get me" or so forth which is in keeping with (Redacted) solve. I will expand on this in my next meeting with law enforcement.
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Bottom 408 18 appears to be anagram: BETTERHITEMEOHPITI or "Better write me. Oh pity" I believe its bridge btwn 408 & part of 340 msg. See next post:
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Those of us who's familiar with 408 should know Hardens solve so heres last section with bottom 18 anagram logically linking to 408: I have killed will be my slaves. I will not give you my name because you will try to slow me down or stop my collecting of slaves for my afterlife. Better write me. Oh pity! You in fact got nothing and I get annoyed and said I had died or caught? Again you say I win the games. Once again so fucked. I hate you don't I? You should die. I go kill you so you see no end of me. I am Jack Tarance. You are a sweaty, nasty, good and tight. My name is zodiac. The end
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Nanette, what I get from 18 anagram is, like Zodiac demanded in letters: better write/ print his ciphers or he will kill/ do his thing again. That said, its part of the taunt game.
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Nanette & all who are following the events of * 340 code break. I wont be ready to publically discuss the 32 code but thanks to Dennis having right suspect, **** & you, years of hard work, the logical process is very clear to me of how to proceed. Believe me its 20-20 hindsight now. I will gladly submit it all to you (all symbols that say Jacks msg) if you like for your next LE meeting.
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I am still not completely following the solve at this point... I know that the 32 cipher said coupled with the map which was the 340 cipher would lead them to the bomb. So the message is a little shaky for me at this point. Plus, there are unknown symbols never seen before in this cipher, so how do you attribute them to others, Catseye?
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Nanette did you read link on LF symbol I sent? It explains in logical detail of linguistics, phonetics, symbols, texts, structure & logical form of what a writer or creator of a message, story, symbol is trying to convey. Once you understand the writer, the creator of a message, then you understand how to fill in their puzzle pieces of what that individual created. That said, still not ready to publically discuss 32.
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Nanette & all who of us who are truly interested in understanding how to understand Jack Tarrance letters & ciphers, messages please see LF/Logical Form link: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Form Noam Chomsky basically made LF theory the famous new symbol of the 1960s and 20th C era. This may help in understanding other ciphers, codes, & ways of communicating in general.
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Having seen what's happened to others who disagree with catseye, my armor is on. I will not respond to you, catseye, so have fun flaming me.
Nanette- I think you are wise to examine the new solve piece by piece before whole-heartedly accepting it as fact. Please do the same with the information that catseye is posting because it would appear that she has misunderstood the majority of what she has read about linguistics and Logical Form. I say this having minored in English and Philosophy in college. I also completed a yearlong research paper on the evolution of language and communication, which included review of works by Chomsky, among others.
  
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Jupiter, come on now... I do not hate people who disagree with Catseye, even I disagree with Catseye. It's how people plan the strategy of filling up the board with infighting that I won't stand. It doesn't seem fit to go back and forth over theory we cannot establish without the suspect, and you know that... Let her have her thoughts. Some helps in some ways, and other portions you just have to toss to the side.

So back to this thread's real meaning. I do not follow Catseye's solve because she cannot articulate a logical solve step-by-step if you will. I get a whole lot of hypothesis based on what DK and CT may have or have not lied to her about and what she believes Z/JT was trying to do, like the Indian symbols. I can't help that they fed her fire, and once she could no longer support them, they are bashing her for her insights, and she still thinks that everything they told her is the truth...

I do however find that *'s solve on all accounts is not only viable, logical, and so simple to understand that there was no prejudice or force fitting even down to the 32 symbol cipher/anagram that he now has posted. I have spoke to Mr. *at length about his thought process, his starting and ending points, and the message he believes can be taken from these "supposed" unsolved ciphers that are not really ciphers, except for the first 2 pages of the 408 cipher/Harden solve. It is very apparent that the word game changed with the last 18 letters, and I believe that *nailed what any person would expect the end of that letter to say from the "real" Zodiac. I will be posting this soon on the 340 cipher thread, and linking his new solves in which he actually credits Catseye for bringing up the "word game" factor that lead him to the end resolve with all the Zodiac ciphers actually articulating a message that can be confirmed. There is no coincidence with the 32 cipher/ "really an anagram word game" and what it references.

Now, the only question is, if a man who isn't educated in ciphers/anagrams/homophonic substitutions could easily (I say with slapstick reality) when compared to all the other experts in the world, solve these with such simplistic ease (Again, I say light-hearted because he really put in many many hours purportedly), how is it that they have "supposedly" remained unsolved for all this time? There is no guessing that the message relayed in the 340 cipher was a word game of incorrectly misspelled words, which we saw the Zodiac do in all his communications, including the 408 cipher, a morphing from a cipher which was easily solved into an ending that tests societies wherewithal of an easy word game of anagrams used since the 16th century or before by poets. Note: used by poets - I have relayed a heavy poetic theme to the Zodiac and other communications from this serial killer. Throw on top of that a phonetic slant which would be expected from a southerner with a southern drawl which is how *, from Texas and Louisiana, recognized the phonetic spelled words with gross misspellings so as to thwart and easy solve.

PS, we also spoke heavily about the bomb schematic in comparison to what industry standard was, and I was right. "Bat." was a significant personal characteristic that dumbed down the diagram so as not to shed suspicion on someone who was actively working in the field. *indicated that the a symbol for a "capacitor" or the likes of the word "capacitor" whether shorthand or written out would have been proper for this diagram. So, now that we have Zodiac using this analogy for the igniter in his diagrams, and JT's use of the same reference in his personal diagrams, we have a huge and significant link to the diagrams. I think this will be of future interest, so the rest of the diagram should be considered for examination in comparison to industry standards and norms.

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