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Those same D's match the one on Jeanne French's corpse. The J-Lo letter sounds like Zodiac Jack too, I haven't been able to find out whether the J-Lo letter is still around.

Graysmith didn't wait long to publish his book on Amerithrax, it is however; very interesting to read.

It took the FBI nearly a year to locate the actual collection box involved in the NJ anthrax attacks.

I think that the "Greendale" school in the return address box on the envelopes shows that a dossier on Dr Hatfill  was used by the anthrax killer(s), it show's planning just like in the JBR ransom note show's planning.

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Both of those letters and the many Zodiac killer letters have the cryptic acronym, which is Zodiac Jack 101.

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What is the J-Lo letter? What did it say?
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OK, caught up on that letter TerryB. I did forget that the Anthrax letters were purported to have been mailed on September 18, 2001. Which I find interesting because the TM letter taking credit for Anthrax was purportedly mailed September 18, 2005, I believe.

I found it interesting that there was a star of David charm in this letter, and wondered what kind of jewelry was taken from JT's victims. I believe that TM claimed that his daughter wore a small gold cross and chain. If I don't have my victims mixed up, but I know that TM was interested in the miscellaneous jewelry that Dennis had from JT's belongings. This charm could have been a link to a previous crime. The laundry soap could also be tied in to JT's crimes, but I have not a clue about the cheap cigar in a tube.

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What connection did Greendale have with Hatfill, TerryB?
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Nanette, Dr Hatfill lived at or was near a suburb in southern Africa called Greendale, I'll have to get back to you as to which country because some of the southern African countries have since changed their names.
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Nanette, to me and my experience in exploring JT, the J-Lo letter is JT 101, it's more of the same snide sense of humor. I still haven't found the exact text of the J-Lo, the whereabouts of that letter is still a mystery.  That too is suspicious when you study the timeline. Did the FBI seize the thing? Who knows?

J-Lo.....get it? JT low!

And yet another cryptic acronym on the Goldman Sachs Anthrax letter complete with an integrated jt initial clue in the E's, dammit!


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This was taken from a Aug 20th 2002 article by Phil Brennan;

That the "Greendale School" listed in the return address on the anthrax mailings is in Harare, Zimbabwe near Hatfill's  medical school. "To the best of my knowledge, there isn't any Greendale school, " Glasberg said. "There is a subdivision near Harare called Greendale but there are Greendales everywhere." (end of quote)

Nanette, once again two common elements about these cross-connected clues emerge: 1) being the Greendale reference that tends to throw suspicion on Hatfill 2) inside information or a dossier on Hatfill was used. Additionally a letter sent from London at or near the time of the attacks tended to direct suspicion on Hatfill because Hatfill was in England near London at that point in time. These things show that this was a sophisticated crime. I'm convinced that a dossier was compiled and used on the on the Ramsey's, it was also a sophisticated crime.

In the case of Hatfill; a Prof Barbara Hatch Rosenburg was right on the forefront of promoting Hatfill as a suspect despite her claims that she never named him specifically.

Nanette, I can't help but feel that the Trenton NJ postmark is  tieback or cross-connection to the Trenton Ca postmark on the old Zodiac envelope. Too many times these tiebacks or cross-connections occur in the cases we've studied. A newbie might think this is preposterous but they need to then read the works of John Douglas to understand this concept in the mind of the "organized serial killer."


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TerryB, this prof Barbara Hatch Rosenburg was a professor where?
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Nanette, I'd have to dig to tell you that. According to Ed Lake her title was or may still be: Director of the Federation of American Scientist Chemical and Biological Weapons Program.

There's a link to one of Ed Lake's many long winded articles on anthrax, as I've stated before; I think his reasoning on Ivan's is very faulty, there are too many things that point to Ivan's innocence.
 
If you need a link, let me know.



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Nanette, you can get really bleary eyed trying to read up on the subject of Amerithrax/anthrax attacks. It sure seems fishy that anyone would commit suicide by overdosing on Tylenol or Tylenol 3, whatever the case may be.

Ed Lake's extensive writings on the subject are full of contradictions in logic. If he gave Ivans the benefit of doubt like he's given Hatfill then he would still be seeking the truth.

For example, on one of his many posted pages he quoted from an April 9th 2002 report in USA Today: Potential suspects with scientific expertise to carry out last years deadly anthrax attacks are said to number in the "thousands", far more than the dozen previously reported, a senior law enforcement official said Monday.

Nanette, I still can't tell if Barbara Hatch Rosenburg ever really meant that her suspect was truly Hatfill. I can say that; Google coughs up a lot of Ed Lakes postings. Again, there is no solid evidence that Ivans made the material or mailed the anthrax letters, none. Was he responsible for leaking a sample of the suspect strain, who really knows? That just can't be said with perfect certainty. Another very convenient suicide, I'd say!

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Nanette, I was looking in an FBI file on the Ramsey case and got mysteriously switched to info on Ivins.

If I can believe that posting, 1)Ivin's named a former co-worker as a suspect, the same of which is  redacted  2) Ivins sent letters to two US Senators advising them to make sure that a bill before congress at that point in time, to outlaw sexual orientation hiring discrimination, didn't include allowing pedophiles to be protected under the same law! In other words he was concerned for the protection of children.

Also in another article I found on the net, it's author claimed that the therapist that reported that Ivins was homicidal was herself of dubious distinction, this article claims that the therapist was a former motorcycle gang member, junkie and ongoing alcoholic.

One pair of pages in the FBI file that were very interesting from our perspective, are found on pages 122-123, as I recall. It's a picture of a Hyatt hotel post card postmarked from Trenton NJ with a four line address box on the front side, and a somewhat short cryptic message on the reverse side that says something that implies that it's a gift from unnamed person at "Princeton". See if you can find it and tell me what you think? The handwriting looks familiar to me, it's really "hand printing" and in felt tipped pen.

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Oh, I almost forgot something. Once again, the sheer number of sites that Google links me to that post blatant lies about Ivins, is very telling. It clearly indicates that someone is paying a lot of money to suppress the facts in the anthrax attack case. They are very clearly "over-playing" their hand and they'd be foolish to suddenly remove those site too! Several claim that Ivins had dried anthrax spores, the evidence clearly indicates that he only ever had anthrax material that was "wet".

Because of the suspicious Hyatt hotel postcard, I can't completely exclude Ivins as having played some incriminating role in the Amerithrax case, it's the lousy way that the FBI "went after" him, is what's troubling. It's a common characteristic that some of the listed crimes share, that being: "a trial by media", the same way the Ramsey's and Hatfill were mistreated.

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I found it, and I will print it. Wasn't the Scorpion letter to John Walsh claiming victims in New Jersey??? This is mailed what would be 4 months approximately before JT dies. I noticed the unusual "j" that is straight rather than curved, and it hit me kind of funny as well. I searched for JBR as well and came up with section 13 of 59 of Amerithrax, page 121 and 122. Is this the one you meant TerryB? Because it is not in color, and I am not sure if utensil can be determined as far as felt tip or not...
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PS I could not find any files on JBR, what search term are you using for her files TerryB?
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