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Well, the upside is that there is logs with Ivin's handwriting on it to do a comparison with both the Hyatt postcard, and the Anthrax letters. What I note to pure bulldozing, it that Ivin's name, SSN, and DOB, are the only personal information that is failed to be redacted from the FBI reports. If this isn't one of the biggest scams of incrimination with no proof, I don't know what is. Every single page nearly, calls out Ivin's over and over again. If I had no knowledge of this case, I would say that he must have done it too. 17 different locations where Ames strain was kept, and they horned in on Ivin's. Search warrants more than 5 years later certainly can't be efficient ways of determining what may have happened 5 years previous, right?

And, the first section of the FBI's files begin in 2004??? WTF  This is supposedly a terrorist act perpetrated by a "foreign faction", right?, but the FBI/Government does not get involved until 2004..... Am I missing something???

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The National Academy of Science said the FBI's methodology was flawed when they (the FBI) did a DNA test that had the strain of anthrax spores as coming from Ivins flask.

I typed in the JBR case into FBI files and got the anthrax files instead! Why, I don't really know, maybe someone at the NSA wanted me to read the stuff, ha ha? Yes, Nanette, that is exactly what I meant. like they have a faulty link in their menu.

The Hyatt post card was something I see as a red flag, and it's presence could be viewed or interpreted in several ways, it's certainly peculiar and it smacks of JT 101.


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OK, did a preliminary check of the postcard. I can say that the statement, "A gift from Princeton. Enjoy the postmark" stinks of a JT hahaha, but I don't know what the author meant by it, and what was the gift??? The handwriting has many dissimilarities. A few striking resemblances with some of the later writings, yet the differences are significant. I think I may need to break this down with the others to get a clearer idea, but it doesn't look good so far.


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Nanette, check out the ED Lake stuff on the anthrax case. I think it's suspicious that Rosenburg was trying real hard to implicate Hatfil. She was also in England at the same time that Hatfil was and she could have mailed one of the letters.
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Were one of them mailed out of England?
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Yes, and at the same time Rosenberg was in England that Hatfil was. Perhaps both these people were being set up as default patsy's? Again more examples of failed security measures......or was the material from another foreign county? Anything is possible.

You and I both know that those letters and that crime were Zodiac Jack 101, and ripe with solid clues!

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When was the letter mailed from England?
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I'd have to look the date up. I think Wikipedia has it.
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OK, I looked up the letter that you reference, and I may just ask a question that blows your mind...

The letter that was associated with the Anthrax mailings with an attempt to bulldoze Hatfill was mailed from Malaysia. I got that, and obviously their bad attempt of dumping this onto him was nothing short of one person's agenda.


So, the letter mailed from London in November 2001:

OK, that was strange... I wiki'd John Mark Karr and his page no longer exists.... hmmmmm disturbing!

Good thing I printed it back in 2010 [smile] [smile] [smile]

Anywho, after the arrest, in April 13, 2001, of John Mark Karr, he was released on October 15, 2001, and a mere 45 or so days before trial set in December 2001. John Mark Karr failed to appear.... Skipped the country, and ended up arrested in Thailand.

I believe that per the Michael Tracey emails "JMK" claimed that he spent time in London with a little girl after leaving the US and before Thailand which is where he is in those emails.

If JMK was trying to claim being the Zodiac by mailing TV's letters for JT from Singapore and Thailand, and pretending to be the author of the letter from JonBenet's killer by emailing Michael Tracey and taking credit with specific knowledge, is it too far fetched to think that he also pretended to be the Anthrax writer by giving his last location as London and Malaysia by sending the last Anthrax letters from out of the country once he got there?

Think about it for a second.... There was a lot of talk during 2001 about the Anthrax mailer being Zodiac. I remember that I didn't know who people were talking about when they said it, but it was said!

Was this another attempt to make it look like this was indeed all one person's doing by way of shifting the attention to another location??? As it stands, this is one of the last letters associated with this case mailed. As if to say, it started in New Jersey and ended in London where a foreign faction might be, or JMK doing some serious dirty work to cover up JT's doings.

More food for thought.

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None of that surprises me. It's totally in keeping with everything, isn't it?

I know it tends to undermined my credibility but I see the "Trenton" post mark on the anthrax case being linked the "Trenton" referenced in the Black Dahlia case. I think a mimic of the Lindbergh kidnapping case is at the center of the selection of the Trenton NJ postal service, postmark. I'll explain this reasoning later on.

One of my recent discoveries is a headline from the Dahlia are titled: "Set Murder Watch For  Dahlia Killer". Set murder watch? Zodiac Jack 101

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Ahhh hell TerryB, my credibility was undermined from the minute that I mentioned BD was connected to CJB and Z. Who the hell cares or is watching at this point? Certainly when I specifically made a connection to the addressing sequence from BD to Anthrax, everyone thought I was nuts for sure!!!
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10-4! Do you see the JT nuance on the last address line on the 'ST. of 'ST. Petersburg' ? They'll think I'm nuts too, ha ha! Do you get the insinuation of a Russian Bio Weapons connection? The Russians suffered an accidental and massive release of anthrax, it killed a bunch of animals and contaminated a large area. It seems to me... and as I recall, they were cheating on treaties we had with them at the time. On that point I may be wrong but I don't think so.
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Well, I know some folks are gonna think that we're crazy to include the Anthrax attacks as being related to all of these other cases but the documents support this line of reasoning and I for one do recognize the handwriting as well as several other nuances. So, here goes:

  GoldmanBrooklyLetter noted.JPG  ZAmerithrax-letter-a noted.JPG  Notice the line: "This is next". ZDaschle_letter noted.JPG  So.....how did he get 'weapons' grade anthrax, or any anthrax spores for that matter? This factor alone clearly indicates a conspiracy.


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One of my older friends told me that that style of 'E' on the Goldman Sach's note was used by old time gang members. Was JT trying to drop another hint? I tend to thing so.
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I spoke with one of the scientists who tested the Anthrax from this case, though I am having a tough time recalling her name it has been so long. Anyway, I know it is in my PowerPoint presentation and my notes. She indicated that it was not "weapons grade" like these cases have the public believing.

My theory of Jack's availability is two part.... 1. He is from Texas where the original AMES strain came from, and 2. He worked as a security guard for Arizona University where they have tested, housed, and recorded anthrax strains from all over the world since at least the early 90's, and definitely at the time Jack was employed there. Jack worked here for 6 mos., and then went to Purina Mills company where he worked for 6 mos. as well. One place if not both places I believe he left on some type of a disability. I will have to recheck those notes as well.

The anthrax was said to have been sent in some type of "dog food" type material per media reports. Pig feed is smaller nuggets of food than dog food I believe, but has the same consistency and color...

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