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Here's a simple way to know with perfect certainty that the JFK assassination was a conspiracy, and the fact that the  major media still lies about it: 2ea Items: 1)The Zapruder film coupled with 2)the testimony of former Texas governor Connelly and his wife is all that is needed to prove that there was more than one shooter, it's that simple.

In the Zapruder film when Kennedy first emerges from behind the Stemmons freeway sign, he is already hit and is reaching for his throat, Connelly is still clutching his hat with his right hand (wrist later broken). Both the governor and his wife said Kennedy was hit first, the Zapruder film supports this. There are approx. 30 frames between the time Kennedy is hit and when Connelly is hit, this is approx. 1.6 sec, which is physically impossible to do with one  bolt action gun. A closer examination of the frames shows Connelly's lapel lift outward as he is hit while Kennedy is already clutching his throat.

I could go on and on about the bullets and several other basic facts but the above is simple and irrefutable evidence. The rest of the case is so fishy, that it stinks to high heaven. A guy like Ruby isn't gonna do anything that the syndicate doesn't want him to do, Ruby more than hints at this later on.

Nanette, thank you for the article link on the Karr and Ramsey thread, it addresses major media distortion and it's a good find. The key to what's been happening to this country is now being told by several people, especially former President Carter with regards to Israel, as well as former congressman Jim Trafficant.

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So many people talk about this as if it is excepted that it was a conspiracy, and that everyone knows it, but it is not about to be said out loud by the forces responsible nor will they allow anyone to talk about it. I am just waiting for that one person who no one ever knew had any information about the truth to write their book on their death bed, and then finally major America will say, "I knew it." They need to then question the government's ability to be effective, be free of corruption, or if they are even really holding our interest above all else...
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Nanette, in the JFK killing there are a lot of avenues of reasoning that can be followed. Most witnesses on the scene said the shooting came from the picket fence. Dallas Parkland hospital attending doctors and staff all said JFK had a hole in the back or occipital area of his head, they said the neck wound was an entrance wound.

All witnesses said the limo came almost to a stop, which left Kennedy wide open. The Orville Nix film shows this to be true. The Zapruder film has been tampered with, but nevertheless, the same bullet didn't hit both men, the ballistic evidence proves this as well, additionally; the sudden head snap of the driver is evidence of tampering of the Zapruder film. The length the legs of the woman in the red coat are far too short, the film was tampered with....but not perfectly so. The blood splatter from the head shot in the Nix film was far less than in the Zapruder film.

The bullet and forensic evidence alone doesn't jibe. Kennedy had three separate wounds, one entrance wound in his back, one entrance wound to his throat and at least one to his head that early reports say entered his right temple. The head wound bullet was fragmented, the neck or back "stretcher" bullet was almost pristine with very little material missing, while the bullet that hit Connelly was very fragmented. There was a bullet hole in the windshield and one in the windshield trim frame, at least one bullet hit the curb near the underpass and cut the cheek of one bystander.

My initial point is; to just fire the so-called Oswald rifle twice, can't be done in less than 2 seconds, it was a "bolt action" type of weapon, even if it could be fired that rapidly, you couldn't aim the second shot. One former Dallas detective that was later suicided, said the weapon found was a Mauser, not a Carcano. Early broadcasts said it was a Mauser that was found, a retraction was offered and they changed the claim to the Italian made rifle. A Mauser is a German made rifle. 

Everything about the JFK murder stinks to high heaven, everything.

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How many shots are said to have been fired all together? I don't know if to follow all the bullet holes to mean that they are separate 6 shots or that some were a pass through making other holes elsewhere? Either way, you are right about the bolt-action and time it takes to cock and reload then re-aim in which case JFK's motorcade should have continued moving, and it is very strange that they would come to a stop. Didn't they also say that one of his security men jumped off his perch on the car leaving JFK wide open?
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The early reports vary of how many shots were heard, and Dealey Plaza is an high echo area. The media reported three shots rang out.

The so-called magic bullet is the bone of contention, a bullet that didn't align with both victims, a bullet that conflicts with  the so-called stretcher bullet. Tons of info can be found on youtube and the net. Some goofy, some not.

Security protocol wasn't followed on that day. The response by the Russian/Soviet government was that not only wasn't the security protocol followed but that his murder was an internal US government conspiracy. A lot of solid evidence supports this claim.

The Zapruder footage clearly shows the JFK reaction and Conelly's reaction as separate events, even though the Zapruder film has been highly tampered with. Many eyewitnesses said and the Orville Nix film shows that the limo came very close to a stop. Many other things support this conclusion, like the limo driver turning his head far too rapidly in the Zapruder film.

Check out the testimony of Sheriff's Deputy Roger Craig, he said he saw the Mauser and the Carcano that day. He was suicided in 1967. He was on the scene moments after it happened.

The Warren Commission ignored the testimony of the vast majority of eyewitnesses that were near the limo that day.


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What is the "stretcher bullet"? Where do I find the testimony of Roger Craig? I suppose I can run some searches, but never know what I am reading is true or fiction when it comes to the reporting on these cases.

How did Craig die? You think that 4 years later was a little late in the game to off him unless he discovered something we never got to hear about.
 I think we get lost when we call it a government conspiracy... Not that it is too far from the truth when you consider that the government is truly organized crime and wealthy individuals who ultimately control the direction of our government. Look at Obamacare, pure and simple tyranny  where government has now taken control of our decisions which in turn creates even more revenue for the rich health care companies, doctors, and prescription drug companies while making the decision on how they will spend even more of our money without our consent through threats of over taxation if we do not comply with his terms.  I don't know about you, but if they had simply passed a law that states no health care insurer has the right to deny coverage based on a pre-existing condition, that alone would be in the best interest of the people, but instead, we have to carry and pay for coverage that is highly unlikely to be used by a majority of people. I still know individuals to this day that refuse to go to a medicinal doctor, so why should they be required to pay for a system they don't believe in??? Tyranny and control - same with JFK and RFK and several of the other cases. So, if we could stop generalizing that government is the conspirator rather than a specific group of individuals that these tyrannies benefit then we might be heard. After all, not all of congress and the house are in support of Obama's new health care law.

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I share your views on Obama care. Collectively, we should be able to get coverage for a relatively low fee, however, it's set up the other way around and smells like a set up. 

The stretcher bullet is a bullet found on a stretcher at Parkland hospital, which exact stretcher is unclear to this day? It is an almost pristine bullet, very little deformity and it's missing very little lead from it's base.

Roger Craig footage is on youtube. The reports I have say he was shot in the chest with a rifle, yet he only owned two handguns and it was ruled as a suicide. Who the hell ever shoots themselves in the chest to commit suicide, for Christs sake? Possible, but not likely.

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It's blatantly evident that the FBI is dirty in the JFK assassination. They knew all about Oswald, Ruby.

In those days; that dirty little cross dressing "Mary" Hoover denied that there was a Mafia!

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I watched a documentary on the NSA where they claim that they never listen to America's phone calls or read their emails because they are purely interested in foreign affairs.... Guess Assange found out differently or why else go on TV trying to clean up the messy bed they obviously made and laid in... He who protest too much!


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I read, just today, that the NSA claims that they are currently only tracking 60 people. They claim they track who some people call and the number of calls, etc. The reality is, is that the higher ups can spy on anyone the damn well they want to. If Snowden got all these "keys to the kingdom" then who should have been tracking Snowden? All unconstitutional search and seizure, IMHO, done by some unknown parties behind the scenes.

This county developed the first atom bombs, then they let the Rosenberg's and their associates steal it all! WTF?

The Russians, French and Chinese probably would have figured it all out on their own, given the fact that the German scientists were already working on the thing ahead of everyone else. Had the Nazi regime not have been so anti-semetic, Hitler might have had the thing first, he did hint and threaten to use it. If it weren't for the German rocket program, space exploration would have been greatly delayed.

The Rosenberg's took the fall fall for blatantly failed security measures, the same goes for Snowden. They should thank Snowden for revealing their apparent weaknesses.

A lot of American people stick up for Snowden.

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As well we should stand behind exposing the truth. I was told once, "If you cannot share what you are doing with others because of shame or embarrassment, then you probably shouldn't be doing it." my friend Craig
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I noticed today that they were talking on the media gaga about amnesty for Snowden but they were pointing out that he faces several felony charges. Hell, several Presidents have pardoned some really bad actors, Clinton pardoned Marc Rich, which was really very wrong, IMHO.
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We have let some truly terrible monsters into our country with amnesty, so how do they differentiate between who is useful and who is not? Better yet, obviously he makes a good spy, use it for what it's worth. Or, get over it, release him because all he did was expose the truth...  Many Americans applaud this type of person no matter what he did to get it out there!
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Every thinking American knows that Snowden's message is in keeping with the US constitution. The last several Neo-con presidents wanna rule the country like they are gonna dictate their policies to the people.

What secrets has Snowden revealed? The only secret he's revealed is the fact that the government is doing unwarranted spying on practically everyone. Has Snowden released any classified documents in particular, besides what I've just stated?....I'd say, no he hasn't. Has or can the government prove that he took anything? I'd say most thinking Americans view him simply as a whistle-blower. Notice the lack of debate regarding this point.

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Funny though that they want to press charges against him for breaking the law when that is exactly what he found them doing. Hahahahahaha gotta love our government.
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