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Nanette, which one(s) of the early killings had "Divine retribution" on the documents, maybe it was more than one of them?
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For the newbie: Nanette has pointed to evidence that the Zodiac killer had "inside information" known only to a limited number of law enforcement people and a few people on the plane in the Cooper hijacking. There's also information that augments the Zodiac killer connection with some very specific items, hence the title of this thread. Additionally: Whomever it was that posted "DB Cooper decoded"on youtube, has uncovered far more specific information than he himself appears to realize or recognize the full implications of, that being the playboy derived cutout letters sent in right after the hijacking.
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Georgette Bauerdorf was "Divine Retribution" and Black Dahlia was "Justified". The Free Masons/Rosacrucians used a term "Divine Righters", I thought this was a very unique term and right in line with Bauerdorf's murderer.
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DB Cooper claims it was for a revolution:

I believe this is the final letter mailed from Sacramento, CA:

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Now, considering the statement, this is consistent with "Divine Retribution" and "Justified" as if to make the deed ok.

I was staring at the block writing and the "A", "B", and "C" are all duplications of letters written by Zodiac, CJB, Black Dahlia, and Lipstick killer, so here's to yet another communication to examine and compare to the rest.



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Tidbits about this letter are the fact that it like the Zodiac's begin "I AM" RIGHT - Zodiac's taunt and possible inclusion of the International Association of Machinists who was the labor union for Northwest Airlines.

There is also the fact that Cooper requested a ride to Mexico with no intentions of going... This coincides with Black Dahlia - though he probably made this trip, H.B. Tennison's suicide and confession letter with pics of Mexico, and the statement to Lake Berryessa victims that he is an escaped convict on his way to Mexico when he certainly was not. 

All in all there is an attempt to connect these crimes through these communications either to confuse or deter, or truth about his doings.

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Hi Nanette, I see what you mean in that study, those are all good points. Remember the Zodiac killer statement: "I'm in control of all things" ? Now consider the 'Trenton' keyword that runs from BD thru Zodiac killer to the anthrax attacks. The closest thing that I've found as it relates to Trenton as it relates in turn to the JBR case, is the beaver hairs found on the victim. This line of reasoning stems from the facts that convicted killer Col. Russell Williams former commandant of CFD Trenton and as it might relate to his wife. It hints in the direction of the Royal Canadian Mounted police and their beaver hair hats etc. The keyword 'Eureka' is linked from the Zodiac killer to the OCCK case. Williams videotaped and photographed his attacks. Talk about a screwball, check him out. Abel Danger names him as a suspect in the JBR murder. It's things that they've found that run close and parallel to things that we've discovered, that hold my interest. Long before I had paid much attention to what they were saying, the clues struck me that the JBR murder was videotaped, especially when adding in the JMK factor and the whole pedophile bait thing. Lately comes the evidence that more than one person had their hands on the victim when she died, this supports Abel Danger line of reasoning too. Encrypted information and hints are what Zodiac Jack seems to be all about.
     I edited to add this point: The gaffers tape found on JonBenet's mouth is yet another clue that her murder might have been videotaped. With the totality of suspicions we have about the people that we think are behind all these crimes, it's not unreasonable to suspect that the Ramsey murder was videotaped.

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1971-12 Revolution Block Writing Cooper.jpg  Zodiac Jack Block Writing.PNG  Lipstick Block Writing.PNG 
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Here's some interesting similarities in handwriting styles from Lipstick Killer - Zodiac - Cheri Jo Bates - Jack's naval picture he inscribed - Riverside Phantom - Jack's personal writing - Cooper Caper.


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I see exactly what you mean. Now.....are you still leaning towards Jack having been the actual person that carried out the DB Cooper caper jump too? If so, I'll have to play devil's advocate. I'm not saying it isn't possible but I think that it doesn't fit in terms of description. I can come up with a scenario that could explain it. Actually the composite drawing of Cooper fit another airline worker very closely, so......that scenario could mean more than person was in on the thing. Please explain your reasoning on this matter?
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I wish everyone would get it in their head that the suspect Dan Cooper "purportedly" wrote that the composite was wrong. This is definitely a Zodiac tactic to tell someone when they have it wrong.

So, we either have, a lie to deter and confuse because the suspect is just an author sometimes, or the truth which is what I tend to believe just due to the history and nature of the communications. Take John Mark Karr, he knew a lot, but didn't make the cut, so he is that author of JBR like Zodiac Jack may have been for other crimes too.

This means that either, Jack was working sometimes as an author for mass confusion, or he indeed committed the crime - with help of course.
These crimes are bigger than one individual and as I look at the time frame, hijackings were a thing of the time. It's kind of strange though that the hijackings did nothing to put in force some type of security to begin with before the Cooper Caper. It's like 9/11 all over again... No help, no protection, and no defense. Allowed to occur in the big scheme of things by big money. I'm just following the money these days.

If the suspect claimed that the composite was wrong and we see a man in dark glasses, how do we know anyone knew what this man looked like after the fact. When is it that anyone had time to view him directly enough to make a thorough sketch of his entire face as we're being fed now. You might have knowledge of having seen a person, but the eye does not hold memory, and I've been helped by plenty of check-in agents that probably never even looked up at me for more than 2 seconds to verify my ID. This leaves no time for study or committing to memory someone's specifics.

The one thing I know for sure is that I haven't put my finger directly on it, and I don't think this can be done until the earlier communications are put together and these ones are examined to even see if there are what they are. I do not have all the facts on this case, and I am looking forward to a good conversation with someone who does.

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Nanette, in my 'crash course' study of the Cooper caper, I recall that at least 4 people claimed to have gotten a good look at Cooper. The descriptions were of a short guy that was real slim. However, since we know from experience that this information could have been re-worked, one can't state this with perfect certainty. The key eyewitness was a flight attendant that refused to ever discuss the case, which I think is somewhat suspicious in itself. To this day; the FBI continues to be deceptive about the case. We see a transfer of responsibility and funding away from the FBI and over to the CIA and especially after Hoover died. A lot of politicians were afraid of Hoover. I read the Cooper caper as a CIA ploy meant to undermine Hoover and the FBI.  I agree that Jack was involved and I do get your point about the ticket clerks not studying the faces of those they sold tickets too. For all we know, there could have been a switcheroo done on the plane too? Otherwise, I'm satisfied that Zodiac Jack was involved, the evidence is all there. So yeah, Jack could have been the one that actually made the jump! I think that Jack was the master of hints and clues and the Cooper caper also has Canadian overtones too.
     BTW, I hope that you get time to watch the "Twain Shall Meet' episode of Wanted, Dead or Alive, it will knock your socks off! It's too much! Let me know what you think about it. It's a damn strong bunch of hints, that's for sure. It fit's in with everything I've come to suspect and expect about Zodiac Jack. Those Trenton hints also take things "full circle" too. Look into the "Rainbow Fish players" thing in the JBR case, it also fits in with everything I've come to realize about these cases.                                                                                                                                                                 

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Well, here it is... The long waited for handwriting exam of the This is based on 2 of the four as 1 was completely done with cutouts from media and 1 that is not of good enough clarity to render any opinion on. This is the Vancouver letter; however, it has the same overall gestalt as the Scorpion letters to John Walsh. Coincidentally the Scorpion letters are a 1991 anniversary of the 11-24-1971 heist.

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