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Nanette, this is in response to your recent Universal Deceit thread. It's fine with me that you have it locked, that's a good idea. Perhaps a thread with the same title with the word 'responses' added might be good.

This is regarding the book idea. I too have been compiling information with regard to these cases. I'm trying to lay out a manuscript. I grapple with what to include, what to say first, how does one avoid jumping subjects or topics while trying to maintain continuity? You also have things like; keeping it interesting to contend with. Where to start, what to emphasize? It takes a lot of mentally planning accompanied with making yourself a bunch of notes. Just formulating an opening statement is a big task. I've written, added to and modified this opening statement several times now. Then there comes the realization that things like; the JMK/Daxis emails must be studied, the Steve Hodel info must be studied and addressed. There's the poison pill of "saying too much" aka "too much information". People will get turned off if their comfort with what they 'think they already know' is shaken. I've kinda decided .....well, screw all of that, those same people have already chosen to be blissfully ignorant. Formulating a table of contents or chapters is another thing to think about. How much detail is needed in re-reporting just the Zodiac attacks? Then of course there is this whole area of my thinking with regard to the real motives behind these crimes, not the motives the perps are trying to convey and reinforce with more lies.

All that and I still haven't finished studying the JMK/Daxis crap. Now I must deal with the Steve Hodel factor, whether I like it or not.As you know: Hodel has made at least two enormously bad errors, to put it politely. The picture thing in the BD case is one very glaring example. Second is his error in not addressing the fact that his father had a mustache and the Stine attacker did not. Add to that the several other things like; hair color, and one must conclude that Hodel isn't really interested in the truth and as such...he blows other aspects of his case as well.

Yesterday I emailed Steve Hodel via his site  regarding these dependencies, I'm still waiting for a response. Meanwhile and 'out of the blue' I received a "new posting" email from the DK MB. It was a posting by Diamond D saying that he always thought that the Stine murder was a key event in the Zodiac case. So why all of a sudden am I getting this notification? Very peculiar, I'd say. I haven't posted on that MB in quite awhile. I'm running out of patience with Hodel, that's for sure. I still like his evidence of the linkage of the crimes, with which we do agree on and I like the documents he has. He too, says that there's massive cover-up going on, so I haven't given up on him all together.


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While this thread is meant for questions and answers, there are items in the "In a Time of Universal Deceit..." thread that I will not elaborate on. This is why I locked that thread to begin with. It is my thoughts at that moment, and not meant to be analyzed by others, plus, some information I am not ready to reveal yet. I appreciate everyone's tolerance and respect for my privacy when I have to answer, I can't answer that just yet...

TerryB, I think there is still much to put together before an accurate accounting of these events can unfold; however, I see some of those tasks unfolding rather quickly.

Like now, off to complete a link-analysis on these crimes before I speak with LE.

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Nanette, I've given up on LE, they only wanna take info and then leave everyone in the dark, this is especially true in the OCCK case. As for my own work, I've decided to write about this stuff from a certain angle, an angle that makes overall sense of things. There's enough for me to go with to do such a work. I've presented my opening statement, and preliminary and basic evidence to some of my smarter friends and they concur with my statements. Some people have been wowed by it, some seem frightened and rightfully so. I plan to make references to the workmanship of others including you. I draw from information readily available in the public domain to set my writings into motion.

There's the old saying of 'leaving them wanting more'. That's also a good idea because it avoids the 'too much information' syndrome, and it leave room for subsequent publications. Though it would be nice to make some money, my primary motive is to advance awareness of these highly organized and definitely connected murder cases.

When I read the local publication regarding the 1984 Jordan MN child sex scandal, I came to realize how difficult it was for the author to convey his messages with continuity. He got all of the key information out but the book leaves the reader with several unanswered question too. One can't really expect that same author to have all the answers. I found this same book in a local museum, that fact is something that I admire and respect. BTW, I see similar criminal patterns in the Jordan Mn child sex scandal but I have yet to observe the same MO that all the other crimes in question share. As a footnote, I'm troubled by the fact the whomever abducted Jacob Wetterling in St Joseph MN, chose the victim by his age (12). However; I haven't seen any of the same signature elements in either of these cases and I admit that they may not even be related.

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Excuse me if I take offense to you wanting to make some money off of these cases TerryB, and if I have anything wrong at all please let me know. I do not recall that you brought any handwriting to the table in any of the cases I have made a connection too??? The only person who listened and didn't bash me as I extensively took the hit both personally and over the internet for even mentioning a connection, was Catseye. Even DK tried to tell me I was wrong, then right, then wrong again. So, exactly how without my work and connections did you make a connection between these cases enough to claim the right to write about those connections. I have plenty of posts throughout this board where after I mentioned a connection to another case you would say you have to run off and research it only to return and concur with my findings... And that gall, to say you will make references to the workmanship of others including myself. For what?, the handwriting, I am the one who independently made these connections to other crimes, and somehow you feel that gives you the right to write about connections someone else made???

Please help here TerryB, before I have to write you off!!!

PS, I have not made a dime for efforts in these cases, and in reality no one should. Those proceeds should go to the victim's families, and not some selfish recognition hound.

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Nanette, if you are gonna publish a book, then I think you should get compensated for your time and efforts, there's nothing fundamentally wrong with that. You could interpret, for example: If DK had paid for your work on the handwriting, someone could claim that you were biased by the money. I disagree with this reasoning. Be that as it may, time is money, as they say..... and this stuff takes a hell of a lot of time and effort, that doesn't make anyone a money grubbing ogre. If...and this is a big if...if you can get a good publisher to publish your works, then you could get the best distribution to get the word out. Most publishers are gonna see it in terms of dollars and cents (sense), that's a fact of life. 

When John Douglas went to work for John Ramsey, he said "my time is for sale, my opinion is not".

I'm only in the process of organizing everything I have so far into a coherent statement, I base only a small portion of it on handwriting because it's not my forte nor my main statement of facts, it could bolster things, but who knows? This is a tough story to sell, meaning for the average person to follow. I don't count any chickens before they hatch, so to speak. I'm in this for the justice, not the money. If I have to make great efforts to compile a manuscript, the same would take me away from earning a living is my main point. Yes, there are several things that I would not have discovered had it not been for you, the OCCK case is one of them. If these crimes are  written about by more than one person conveying the same basic message, then it would tend to support anyone else saying the same basic message. Already a major obstacle exist if a guy like Hodel has the dominant story because we know he's seriously wrong about some things. To counteract Hodel, one or more sensible publications are needed, otherwise his story will dominate the whole business.

The local book about the 1984 Jordan child sex scandal cost the author to publish it, it's not a best seller, it's a piece of journalism really and it took lots of time, effort and out of pocket money. DK probably thinks he owns the rights to anything that has to do with JT as it is. My approach is to present a linear story that only draws from documents already in the pubic domain. And yes, a disclaimer about JT would be a good idea too. Don't you normally get paid for your work on handwriting? I troubleshoot and repair electronic items, I engineer electronic items, I do other tasks as well for money. If I spend tons of time organizing this stuff, it takes away from my ability to raise money to pay the bills, that's my main message. I have yet to find the time to organize my writings, that's all I meant. Bear in mind that publications are needed to counteract folks like Hodel. As it currently stands, that may never happen. LE certainly isn't gonna do the right thing, are they?


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The universal deceit in both the Black Dahlia and Zodiac murder cases was the active suppression of the name 'Jack', that can be stated with perfect certainty via a gleaning of the prime evidence in each case.
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TerryB, the only thing fundamentally wrong with me receiving profits from this case (Zodiac) is that I am not the one who solved it!!! Dennis Kaufman solved this case in 2000. Dennis Kaufman brought me Jack W. Tarrance, Jr., and had already confirmed his culpability. I only did the job that a moral and ethical examiner should have done while every other AFBDE, DOJ examiner, and LE examiner should have rightfully done. My extent to who Jack W. Tarrance, Jr. was, is the connection to all the other cases across the US where Jack Tarrance's existence was that that does not overlap with any other crime spree that occurs.
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And I point out that Kaufman has bucked you on several points.....and I've generally sided with you because I think he's been unfair in his dealings with you.

If money is my goal, this is the 'land of plenty' and there are way easier ways for me to make money. Dealing with this stuff is personally painful. I do it out of a sense of duty.

I think that you should have billed him for your work but I'll now drop that subject. Everybody's a victim when murder/racketeering cases like these prevail, everybody.

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He is not beyond billing considering how he has treated me. I was and always have been his biggest advocate in this case. I have never taken evidence from him, I have never wavered in my opinion, and I have only continued to pursue the avenues connected to his claims.

This sure is land of plenty, and a select few continually reap those benefits while dis-informing the public, engineering money making schemes whether with our health or livelihoods, and figuring out every last way to monopolize on the hard earned money that the real working class slaves our butts off to make and keep taking every little bit we may get.

We are victims of the "Rich" whether it is our not so honest and law breaking government or the millionaires and billionaires that have designed far into the future how they will continue to take our money. But hey, we let them do it now don't we???

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Do not discount the librarian system, TerryB. Think about it… Robert Gray Smith is receiving the same treatment as Harriette, Sandy, and I, but only after having portrayed too much of the truth. This is what happens to all of us. His immediate changes from his first book to a more realistic second book would cause the real players involved to downplay the evidence as they have done with anyone related to Jack Tarrance.

Now, let’s set the record straight, do I think Sandy Betts is crazy, NO! Do, I believe that she was stalked by the Zodiac, NO! But, do I believe that she was stalked by some man who delivered communications that are written by the Zodiac, almost absolutely. Considering what I have researched, and found in JT’s belongings, I do believe that there is an act of conspiracy. It is right up the alley of this conspiracy to make something look like it isn’t. Just think, if the program has graduated to a point where they would pose or post another individual who would be claimed as this killer, who would be caught in an eye sight range, then that was their intentions. To make you believe that this person is the suspect, just like Ivin’s, Busch, Ramsey, Allen, and so many others.

I also thought that if there were many messages deciphered by our world’s greatest that kept identifying a pedophile like Arthur Leigh Allen, then considering the new evidence on the players of MK Ultra, we should really be considering the intent of the message where Allen Dulles was the head of the CIA during the time they experimented on Jack Tarrance, and he became upset with them.

TerryB, Tom Voigt didn’t remove that Groucho card because he was afraid of any Jack (rabbit) conclusion, he erased it because of all the hype that surrounds the delivery of it. Think about it, the Groucho Christmas card was postmarked 1990 and didn’t surface until 2007. This is exactly the same with the communications with RGS.

The stamp did not become a stamp until 2009, but the letter was not postmarked until Oct 22, 2010, and was not received until November of 2011 as I am told. But, the handwriting is that of a dead person since 2006, if the handwriting is determined to be that of the Zodiac. Examination still under way.

If we believe that Jack was involved with the CIA, and we know the handwriting computer program was designed for the United States Postal Service that was then taken over by the CIA and Secret Service, then we cannot succumb to the fact that these misdirected communications were by fault rather than by purpose to deceive and give certain implications.


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Sorry that I'm so late in responding to this post Nanette, I guess that it didn't sink in when I first saw it? The Tom Voigt factor is something that I've basically ignored. I've always felt that he was full of crap for posting all the other suspects that he does, while he apparently discounts Tarrance as a suspect. Jack Tarrance was the only suspect ever named that fits the exact description of the guy seen at the Stine murder and was also compatible with the Shepard murder as told by Hartnell. I've felt that Voigt has his own narrow agenda, and I'm now seeing that he may have had a much more active roll in things.
     I don't discount the "librarian system" whatsoever. It's just that I've been so immersed in the Ramsey case study.
     I still don't know who Sandy Betts is? It is interesting what you have to say about Graysmith.

     The main reason that I came to this thread was to point out how the criminally run US news media(especially CNN) was declaring Lubitz guilty of crashing Germanwings flight 9525 long before the black boxes were recovered and how phony the crash site seems. Far too many passenger jet crashes have happened during and since 9/11. The odds of these happening are astronomical when comparing the safety record of passenger jets worldwide. The way the cockpit door was rigged was downright deliberate and downright criminal. This latest generation of these criminal people running these things behind the scenes is very very clumsy indeed.

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I am on board with your points, and I wanted to add, watch the movies and shows produced. Media is giving you insight to some believable points of technology still not available to the public but definitely available, and/or some of the things the government, secret ops, or rich people can get away with. To this I wonder, are movies like San Andreas Fault something that government geologists are already aware of. Think about the control over average America that media has when you consider we want to know how the rich operate or secret societies that is why we have Kardashian's and so on.

 

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Yeah, Kardashians?  I have a few younger friends that are very high on Bernie Sanders and they're all kinda like "programmed" to receive, if you get my drift? I tell them, no amnesty for Snowden, no vote from me. It's interesting to say the least that Trump directly confronts the "US media as being very very dishonest." I think that a lot of people are turned off by his arrogance, which is too bad because otherwise and other than the Snowden factor, I've never witnessed a candidate for POTUS slamming the mainstream media the way he does and I think his other messages make sense. It floors me that Hillary has gotten by so far without being charged. They practically took Patreaus' (betray us?) pants down and spanked him in front of the public...well I guess he took his own pants down and then they later spanked him, kind of, ha, ha ha. Laughter is sometimes a coping mechanism, ain't it?
     Lately I'm having to review the subject of the actual execution of JonBenet, which is not something that I like to do but nevertheless, I feel compelled to explore it.
     Back to the US media..... I'm at the point where I practically doubt most of the things that they report until I get confirmation from reliable sources. I  learning that I'm not the only person that feels this way.

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