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I get your "out of the country" point. TV serves to continue the Zodiac killer myth. He hasn't acknowledged the very profound "Jack" and JT clues, or the handwriting evidence. If he can't set aside the feelings he has about DK, then I'd say he has an agenda, and/or he's very stubborn. The evidence of JT being the Zodiac killer is very substantial. He has zero evidence to include any other candidates that he lists.

The Beltway sniper murders are suspicious because of the fact that a key FBI employee was murdered. If you look at her role at the FBI, you'll see what I mean. In terms of MO, I think the crime was very similar to the Zodiac Jack crimes in that they were probably trying to make the killings look like it was the work of a nut. These killings came about a year after 911 and served as another case of domestic terrorism, much the same way the anthrax case was. There were several taunting documents, there were leaks to the press that probably came from the killers camp to make LE look bad. I see a very similar MO, except that this time, the device was mobile snipers hell bent to inflict terror. Manchurian Candidates is what I think they were, not necessarily from China but from right here in this country. They have drugs they can "condition" these people with to go out and do these self-destructive acts. I suspect that the tip they got to arrest the killers came from a do gooder from within the FBI, or perhaps it was part of the program? Look at that aspect too and you'll see what I mean.

I know that we have plenty on our plates already, but the Beltway sniper case stinks the same way as these other cases stink. Look at her role at the FBI. The chances of an FBI employee being gunned down randomly are mathematically astronomical IMHO, especially a key one such as she was.

See if you recognize some things in the documents too.

There may still be key things that we can glean from the Daxis emails but I think we have plenty to clearly demonstrate the fact that the Daxis emails were part of a conspiracy, the evidence of that is very substantial and very self-evident. Amazingly, any of the minutia that deviates from the very very redundant Daxis/Karr message is Zodiac Jack 101, overwhelmingly so and totally so. A cardiogram, military time, stop all the clocks, etc, etc, for Christ's sake anyway!

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I think that TV is just as seriously done with listening to DK as I am, and whether that prevents him from accepting the truth or not, I have no choice. "The handwriting is on the wall", and I will never back down from what I know. No amount of threats to lose what I have, and no amount of internet bashing is going to bring me to my knees.

Yes, the Zodiac/JBR Killer/ now IMHO Anthrax mailer, was projected to be out of the country in a single man's doing, JMK! I now know why people believed that the Anthrax mailer was the Zodiac. It was not a simple person's hunch, but someone on the outside who was not attached to the outcomes indifference, just like me. There is far more to this case than most will admit, and that includes TV!

TerryB, don't you mean "For Heaven's Sake"?

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Yeah, you're right, I should have said "For Heavens Sake", ha ha ha!

As you well know; the anthrax attacks have all of the elements of the Zodiac killer crimes. The JT initial/nuance clues are also there, as well. That fact and the basic elements of the Ramsey murder causes one to re-think the underlying motives in these crimes. As you know, the OCCK case has all the same elements and provable clues. I know that JT intentionally left a trail of clues, there's absolutely no doubt in my mind about that. You and I both know and with perfect certainty that Jack was the Zodiac killer and there are a small group of people behind the scenes and in the US government that know that this is the truth. Only someone with clandestine powers had access to weapons grade anthrax, the same goes for the much cruder powder used in the initial attacks. This last statement is an inescapable fact, there are no two ways about it. Technically, that same material shouldn't even exist because it's classified as a "weapon of mass destruction"! Perhaps some of the honest folks within the FBI that insisted that it was the Ames strain had meant to clue others in that the source was domestic. Now the story has shifted to have us believe that it's bad science to trace it to the Ivins flask/Ames strain!

The more those same people bash us, the more they draw attention to what we're saying.

Perhaps the NSA wholesale spying is meant to keep tabs on folks like us?

The gunning down of the FBI employee in the Beltway sniper case is a "smoking gun" in terms of motive. That woman knew too much and her role at the FBI backs this statement. The chances of her ending up as a random target are mathematically almost impossible. Certainly it's more than one in several million against it happening at random. This means that all of those people, including a little kid, were murdered to cover up and obscure the true motive.

Unfortunately, I'm forced to wade through all of the damn Daxis/Karr crap as well as the damn Beltway sniper crap. I'm glad that you're looking at this stuff too Nanette, because, as you know; it's too much for one person to deal with. Several people know these facts but  they would just as soon go stick their heads in the sand as deal with it, the same goes for DK, TV etc, etc.

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I just think that anyone sticking to the idea that the Zodiac was an 11 month fluke whereby this person committed heinous crimes and just disappeared never to have killed again, or just started their killing career with the likes of an elaborate ruse such as we see in the Zodiac, is purposely attempting to cover something up. Whether it's in keeping with a mystery for more money or because Jack was someone clandestine as you stated TerryB, but you are right. The very ludicrous idea that they ignore the simple messages being brought forth from this mass murderer tells me someone is running the show.

I have watched several shows where LE has admitted that they didn't even know about other crimes in relation to theirs because it either wasn't as nationally announced like BD or JBR or the MO was different to some degree, so they never even thought about connecting them. We may see a different tune here shortly because I truly believe that LE has seen some value in the connections, and it is just about putting them together...

The Zodiac case was big enough for a single person, and the minutia of all these cases requires someone full time to link the attributes because there is so much info and bad info to sort through. It is truly exhausting and sometimes I wonder if I will ever get back to tasks that really need to be done on each case to shore up theories. This is why I am hoping that my next visit from LE makes some kind of huge movement in putting some of these crimes on the map as being directly related to Zodiac... I especially look forward to a connection to LK because this would vindicate Heiren's even if I couldn't make that difference before he passed.


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Within this thread are some of the key observations that Nanette and I have made regarding the Tracey/Karr/Daxxis emails. Did investigators give up on gleaning things from those emails? I have a hard time believing that they missed  these key things.

I'm not saying that pedophilia isn't an aspect of the JonBenet Ramsey murder case, I'm saying it's a secondary aspect of the crime, or should I say tertiary aspect?  I warning against being fooled by the way the murder was staged. Yes, they took advantage of the child beauty pageants. Bear in mind that the 'adult" aspects of that event were only in the last year of the child's life and simply seem to be something they got caught up in. The footage of the victim the public has seen has also been tampered with.

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The point made about what agenda was being achieved by these heinous crimes rings true with OCCK, Ramsey, and other political motives that can be directly linked to all the crimes that I will cover. There has always seem to be people of wealth surrounding whatever JT is doing. Either taking them out, or changing their course in life with such tragedies, and this is obviously to someone's benefit. It always it....
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I don't see how LE could have missed these things in the Karr emails, I think it's being suppressed.
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The public sure didn't hear a whole lot about them. I think that the fact that the "Anthrax Mailings" hoax or not, ended in Malaysia which is where JMK picked up, pretending to mail out Zodiac letters from Singapore and Thailand, and then also pretended to be the killer of Jon Benet Ramsey. This screams louder to me than anything. Too fit, too perfect, and too coincidental that this guy just happened to get off of kiddie porn charges because after lying to authorities about being the killer of JBR, Sonoma County also lost his computer with child porn on it. No f'n way. He was set up to play suspect for many crime sprees while being paid with his freedom. I still question how JMK could possibly have $3000 in an account in England when he purportedly couldn't find work and was living on benches. BS I tell ya!
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Yeah, the timing of those events is suspicious. He's there to pound home the message that JonBenet death was an accident. Keep the public and everyone thinking it was sexual thing verses the fact that it was a premeditated murder. Nancy Krebs served the same function. I think that the way the BDP and the FBI mishandled the Ramsey case demonstrates the power and control of the person or persons behind all of it. Whomever they are, I think that they have a bunch of well placed pedophiles that they can have absolute control over. This last statement is more of a theory than anything else I've said but I think the evidence supports such a notion.

I agree with the late Det Lou Smit that JonBenet was a pedophiles dream but that factor served as part of the staging of the crime. John Ramsey and rich people seem to be the common targets in all of these case we've pondered. The OCCK letter comes right out with stating that the killer doesn't like rich people, trying to make it seem like it is a personal problem the killer has, so it's a hint but also a lie.

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Well, it's time for more work on this project because I keep running into more and more interesting aspects that seem to tie everything together just like the JMK aspect. I thought the letters to TV were similar in aspects to the Scorpion letters, Robert Graysmith communications, and Michael Tracy emails. All in hopes to get the true story told. As if all that mattered to these suspects were recognition, just like Zodiac...
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Nanette, it's hard for me to believe that some persons in law enforcement or even Michael Tracy didn't pick up on the discrepancies in the Karr/Daxxis/Tracey emails. 
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It is a huge endeavor, but I think that someone should have read those damn things for consistency. Maybe after relating them to the likes of a loser like JMK, they figured them to be all bs. Who knows.... I still don't understand how the likes of JMK could afford the likes of gender reassignment considering getting any kind of job to afford that kind of surgery would be out of reality for him... This almost screams, "payoff."
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Nanette, you've brought up other points about where he got all the money to travel etc too. Yeah, that's a good question.

In reading his emails, it's probably simply their lack of perspective that caused Tracey, Smit and LE not notice the things that we did in those emails. On the other hand, a study of changes in sentence structure and linguistics should have tipped them off. I like to think and hope that he'd been under heavy surveillance but it seems that we have no way of knowing that either way. As you know; there was a big flap when the evidence they had in California on Karr went missing. LE needs to re-examine the Tracey/Daxis emails from our perspective.

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Nanette and I read those damn Daxis emails until we each were bleary eyed. We both knew that it "had to be done". Each of us noted several significant and specific statements buried in amongst the many sickening, redundant and boring remarks made Karr. These secondary remarks were made by someone that was a lot less educated than John Mark Karr is. Karr's remarks are all redundant and predictable. You can readily detect that when Tracey was probing and prodding for some specific replies, that there was a delay in the response. It's just like Karr is this robot that has been asked a question that "does not compute" but then a few emails later.... a new series of responses come in from the "Karr camp". These same responses basically have nothing to do with Karr and everything to do with our prime suspect, things like: keywords, missives, subjects, themes, screwy and viscous remarks and the like.

By reviewing this thread, the reader can save themselves a lot of grief and agony because those emails are very sickening. They're as sickening as the corpse of the Black Dahlia/E.Short is to view or any of these very underhanded murders and attacks were to read about.

I'm not sure about Nanette, but I have to honestly admit that I never truly made it all the way though all of them. I stopped when I was certain that between the both of us; that we had enough specific information to be more than reasonably certain that they were from Zodiac Jack. Some were very specific and directly pertained to Jack Tarrance's heart condition. Additionally, several Karr camp remarks were 'dated material' so to speak. In other words; things that a guy Karr's age is not gonna be familiar with.

One of these days I may go back over the Daxis emails, especially the early 'decemberman' ones. For my sake, it's not necessary but if it serves to fortify what we're saying, well...then I might go back to the damn things to glean even more specific information from them.

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I want to thank you Nanette for going through the Daxis emails, if I haven't already, yer my hero!

I'm reviewing this thread and I got to your post #8 and you were pointing out the Alice In Wonderland thing which does come 'full circle' to the rabbit monogram from that same book that was mailed in during the Zodiac case, so that can be added to the Zodiac comparison list. Those other things that you and I listed are most definitely linked to at least the Zodiac, OCCK and JonBenet' Ramsey murders, I say that with perfect certainty. The Daxis emails contain some of the strongest evidence that Zodiac Jack wanted posthumous recognition for these murders. There are far too many specific items that cross-connect.

You do realize Nanette, that we reviewed only the last two years of the damn things, there were four years in all.

It's kind funny from our perspective, we know that the Karr camp wanted Karr picked all along up but Tracey and the police were afraid they'd loose him! It had to be frustrating for Karr and Zodiac Jack, ha, ha, ha! I realize that Tracey and the police had no way of really knowing this.

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