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Waiting on a status report that should come on Monday.........  Fairly excited I might add because the examiner has been examining the handwriting this long, and that is an awesome sign.  Probably means that just like me she hasn't been able to rule it out, and just keeps making matches. The longer it takes, the more in our favor I believe it is.... 


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That's exciting news Nanette!

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Great to hear this and thanks for the MB, NanetteB. Whether it's just a temp MB link in the chain or to be a permanent link to Dennis MB, it is great as there are finds still coming along! Anyway, can't wait for the results. I hope Monday is better than any XMAS gift one could get. My Goodness, people have been waiting for clarity on who was Zodiac for years, namely the victims and their loved ones but also those who have been following the cases for decades. WhooWho! and it's gonna snow tonight and tomorrow here in Lake County!

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Well I am hoping for some clarity today! The agent said he hadn't been into the office yet this week due to trial, but he would check for me today....Here's to crossin the fingers.  Gosh, I can see why it has taken so long for Dennis to get to this point.  At the rate that the agent is able to work on this it could take forever for a close.  I sure hope he gets a break from current criminal activity, so maybe we can work on this old, yet just as important case IMO!

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    How have you been Tamoose53?  Well they can just waste their energy on the "told you so" factor.  Dennis was in a terrible accident, and addressing the message board has not been the priority for him at this point.  That is why we have initiated the temporary board.  The normal M/B will be back as soon as he is able to address it.  I certainly would not hold any M/B as a priority, Dennis has bigger things to deal with.....

     We are still at a stand still waiting to hear from the FBI.  They evidently have bigger fish to fry, and we are on the lower rung of the totem pole!
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     I have asked several times so far as to what the status is, and have been unable to get an answer.  Either the agent is too busy with trial to think about this case, or the examiner has not responded to the requested update on the status of the handwriting from the agent.  I am trying to be patient, but for heaven sake, it has been 9 months.  The epitome of a snail I think!!!!!

     I couldn't be on more pins and needles than I am right at this moment in my life.  I know that the overall decision is ready to come out at any moment, and it is making me insane with anxiety. 

     Here's to the next results revealed!!!!!!!!



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Hey, Tamoose53 and NanetteB/Habituation! Dennis, I sure hope all is well with you. Sorry to hear about an accident. Tamoose53, if you can, check the http://www.photobucket.com/Zodiac_Killer_Jack_Tarrance  and my MySpace pages as it makes the nay-sayers look silly. Judgement Day is coming for all those nay-sayers and Voigt et al are at the top of the heep. We just have to keep up our hopes that the FBI gets this officially declared that Jack is Zodiac, soon. So, that comment addresses NanetteBs statement about it taking so long as there always seems to be something looming to block the way and someone like Voigt w/Hollywierd backing and/or supporters to stick the knife in deeper into someone like Dennis and his supporters. My skin is now made of teflon coated surgical steel after 14 years of this, so, no knife will even get past that! Anyway, I hope that news comes across, soon. Gotta Go....it's a madhouse of events for me today!

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Thank You, Tamoose. Hey and you brought up an important point about all the other boards thinking the Zodiac cases are over. Well, if they think it is over, then if it is over, it means it is solved and why don't they say who they think it is? I hope they don't think it is Gaikowsky! There's nothing to really elude to it being that guy, not even the GYKE in the 1969 3 part cipher as his friends say he never used that spelling for the abbreviated surname. Nor was Gaikowsky known how to find his way in and out of the forest....we got Jack nailed from the get-go as an outdoorsman before the word Orienteer (lat/longitude, locationing, using a watch for this) came into play and I am loving the Orienteer Hole Punches on the 13th Victim card & Lass Card, and references to pacing. Oh, I can go on but if they (who are in the other boards) think it is over, then why don't they say with concrete evidence to back it, who they think it is. If they are mute on this issue, then they must believe it is Jack and Jack, Dennis and all his supporters leave a sour taste in the opposing board members mouth. Anyway, nice to hear back from you too, Tamoose.

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I am so sick of secrets and lies......I do not know who to believe anymore, and I have never seen such a bunch of dysfunctional systems in my life!!!

Let's go back to October, after I delivered a Nuance report, requested by the FBI, and we asked about JT's military records to see where he was in 1945? It would take us 6 mos. to get the answer by normal request, and Chris said he could do it much quicker.

FBI response, JT's records burned in the 1971 fire. Also, the handwriting is just now being examined by a new examiner because the gal who was suppose to look at it was too busy. (So, we are finally getting an examiner after 6 mos.)

I already read that the fire consumed 70% of Army and Air Force records, but by my own investigations, JT's military should have came to rest in the Navy warehouse as this was his last military stint. I have been told that the file follows the individual through their military career. So, how did JT's end up in this fire????

Then we gave them new info that JT's mom actually lived in Chicago, IL, and Charles, JT's brother, met his wife in Chicago in 1952-54 time frame.

In November I asked Chris Hopkins if they had checked on the whereabouts of JT's mom and when she had resided in Chicago? We know she sold the farm in 1944, so when did she move into Chicago? And, we ask what is going on with the handwriting, and Dennis is picking up the negatives that have been sitting in his file since March 09.

FBI response, Nanette you can't tie JT to every murder just because he was in the area, and the handwriting matches! The handwriting was taken away from the examiner that it had been given to because he is only concerned with making his career, and had seen something he didn't like, and began working on something other than Chris Hopkins had asked him to do. I was told he was a newbie just trying to make his career. (This would be the case, so now I'm really confused.)Either way, Chris Hopkins said it is better that the gal got it back because that is who he wanted to do the exam anyway, and that we would have an answer back by December.

(They just had me report on the Z-BD-LK Nuances, and now I'm being told that I can't talk about LK.) WTF

Between November and December I examined the Scorpion letters, Anthrax letters, and eventually the I-45 letters in January while saying nothing to anyone except Dennis, who thought I was out of my mind. After putting the communications together from Tom Voigt, John Walsh, Anthrax, and Tim Miller, I realized that JT knew his identity was being suppressed for some reason. Read these letters together and you see that JT sent his fingerprints and DNA to people to prove who he was, and they kept it mum, IMO because of pending movies, books, and careers. Look how SFPD will test everyone except JT, they just keep losing his stuff, or corrupting it through the testing process. I am very happy to see them under scrutiny.

With no new info from December to January, we finally get a meeting with Hopkins, I believe the 2nd week of January, where by the way, the handwriting examination report had just arrived that morning.

FBI response to the handwriting was inconclusive and 1 page and 1 paragraph on the second page long. No exemplars included to see what she was referring to, and by the looks of it she used only 4 exemplars of the 100+ I submitted, Q13, Q14, Q15, and K2. Referring to them 2 times as "inconclusive" in one sentence and "may not have in the second."

I ask about LK again, and again, I am hastily told that I shouldn't be going there, but I bring up the Scorpion letters, and all of the sudden we are talking about an ok match for some reason. This is where the FBI asks for the 5th report from me on the Nuances of JT and Z. I prepare 186 page report reluctantly because how can I be right about one writing, and be wrong about another? Why are they trying to keep me from certain writing? I certainly do not dare bring up Anthrax!!!

Feb. rolls around and I have completed the Nuances report for the 3rd time with Dennis because I was told directly by Chris Hopkins that no one would take the time to read my 186 page report, and that I needed to give the meat and potatoes, so they would want to. He told me it was my job because no one else would do it.

Feb. 19, Dennis and I are working on the final draft of the condensed 30 page report, and Richard, my boyfriend, calls to Dennis and I and says you guys might want to come in here and see this. What we saw, a news release from the FBI naming Ivins the sole perpetrator of Anthrax 2001. This made Dennis white as a ghost, and sick to his stomach. He asked me how much I believed that the Anthrax was JT, and said as much as I believe he is Zodiac!!! Dennis apologized and said that if he knew this case went that deep he would have never got me involved. (Really, if I hadn't gotten involved we wouldn't know this case went this deep.) Now Dennis is on board with all the handwriting.

I begin contacting people out of our investigative group which includes:

An acting Judge, a few attorneys and professor, and a retired Sac. PD Investigator, to get my bearings as to what was happening. All are as confused as I when it comes to the FBI asking for report after report from me, even in areas I am not a professional??????? I am glad to hear I am not the only one going WTF! FBI never asks for anything in the way of forensics from the public!!!

So, I began my campaign, and contacted the following:

Tim Miller
Attorney General Edmund Brown
Governor Arnold
all 40 Anthrax Congressional Committee members at more than 60 offices, with a 30 page report.
Jackie Spiers
Meryl Nass
Anyone I thought might have an interest in solving who JT was.

Feb 26, 2010: Congress call BS on the FBI and the M.O., handwriting, and forensics do not match Ivins. (I am so excited, this means someone knows what is going on.)

March 4, 2010:

I receive a call from Tim Miller, and we go over his letter, and I make sense of things he and others could not, but he told me that they tried to make him feel like he had done it himself, and in the end we find out that the letter was thrown away by LE because they figured it was a hoax! WTF, who throws away anything in an open murder investigation. I believe that because JT took credit for all his doings in this letter that he would not have taken the precaution to cover his DNA and fingerprints, and we would have a home run, but no, just like all evidence in every crime related to JT, the evidence is gone!!!

Anyways, my mind went wandering, I was going back and forth on calls between Tim and Dennis, and on one of them Dennis told me that he had pictures of JT in Texas coinciding with all the I-45 murders, so I relay the message to Tim. Tim tells someone in his office that I said, "Dennis has pics of JT at the crime scenes." I quickly corrected him and said, "No, Dennis said he has pics of JT in the area when the crimes were committed." Tim and the other person he was talking to broke down crying and he said he would have to call me back. (I thought he was heart felt, and honest.)

Within the hour Tim called back and asked when he could come out. I told him last year was too soon, so he and Steph Watts climbed on a plane and showed up in Sac. on 3-5-10. For the next 2 days I hosted the gathering at my home, serving dinner of ribeye and bacon wrapped scallops via my bf the first night. The next day we spent in JT's stuff looking for any clues as to where he was. We made a link to the zip code that Tim's letter was mailed out of, and Dennis found a box of really old pics that were fabulous. I seen a pic myself of JT, B/W with the white border, in front of Public Company of Northern Illinois, the cars in the background are definitely 1942 - 1945 because the entire parking lot was filled with them. That means we have JT dead to rights in Chicago, IL during the LK murders. (While Tim was here, he received a call for the biggest missing person he said of his company's career, the CEO of Sequent Energy Management, lost in New Orleans.)

For the last 2 hours, when Dennis was suppose to pack to go to Texas with them, and they would fly me out Mon. or Tues., Tim and Steph continued on about Dennis knowing more than he was saying and that they were ready to give up and go home, and Dennis could call whenever he was ready. I figured this was our one shot for someone who really wanted to solve the death of their daughter, but it turned into a nightmare. I know Dennis remembers that I called him 2 x's while he was suppose to be packing freaking out about what they were saying.

10:00 Dennis shows up and he's not even remotely ready to go, and Tim starts in with I am going back I have an important case, and I have waited 25 years for the answers on my daughters death, so I can wait even longer, call me when your ready. (Seriously, who says that about their daughter, I should have realized at that point his heart wasn't good, and that the CEO case meant more than his daughter.) Instead, I freak out thinking that Dennis is causing us to lose something good, and I get upset with Dennis.

Dennis goes outside, and Steph follows him while Tim is inside trying to calm me down. After Dennis leaves, Steph and Tim proceed to tell my bf and I that Dennis asked for money for evidence (ID's). I freak out even more, and call it quits on Dennis. Tim said he is returning to complete a test on a white powder that he found, and that Dennis and all involved deserves to be arrested for conspiracy to cover. (Little does he know who is really responsible for conspiracy to cover)

On the talk show with Dennis, Steph is being prompted by someone named Sherry who brings up the Jon Benet letters. That is why I looked at them. This is the last day that Tim took a call from me, after leaving with my JT/Z Nuances report that I said I would pick back up from him on Monday or Tuesday when he flew me out to talk to LE. (But that never happened, and now he won't return my calls or anything.)

I truly believe that JT had something to do with the writing of the letters because the Ramsey basement window was broken into 2 months previous to Jon Benet's death, and nothing was taken, but who would miss a notepad? I think in the later years of JT's doings that he was busy confusing people with who and what was really happening. There are too many connections to John Mark Karr to be a coincidence, and Zodiac was definitely trying to make himself look like someone else and that he was somewhere else.

The 2002 letter went to Voigt from Thailand, and John Mark Carr began contacting media in the US in 2002 trying to make it look like the person responsible for the Jon Benet crime that we know JT's handwriting matched was done by him and was in Thailand. But, I bet that the DNA isn't JT's, and that he is only responsible for setting up the crime and writing the note to confuse the authorities.

Today I find out from Kris Pickel that both Tim and Steph claim that Dennis never tried to sell them anything, and I realize this was a complete setup. There was no reason for Tim to lie to me unless he was purposely breaking us up, so Dennis would go to the document examiner they wanted to have credit for the find.............

I do not know who to believe anymore, and I am completely confused by this system.

Even Chris Hopkins told me that the FBI still believes that Patsy Ramsey killed her daughter because of trace evidence that was found to match her closet. I already read the Mary Lacy, Boulder Co. DA, cleared the entire family by touch DNA. Why am I being lied to?????????

People do not want this case solved just like JFK!!!!!!!!!! Chris even joked at me by saying, "next you are going to say that JT killed JFK!" I told him I am not going there because there is no handwriting involved, and a president signs up for the possibility of assassination, not these families that JT affected. They are who I care about!!!!

This is my story, believe it or not! I strongly suggest that Ripley's not be involved in your decision.


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Why won't they let me talk, or show them what I have?????????????

Why do people want to supress JT?????????????????

It's great that both FBI and SFPD are under scrutiny, but let's see if they fix this JT Fiasco, or let it ride like all the rest.

I am putting my faith in Congress for the Ivin's family sake, and I am putting my faith in Attorney General Brown for all the rest of the victims JT affected by getting to the bottom of what SFPD did to Dennis!

Let's see if my faith in our government exists at the end of these charades!

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Nanette, I hope they get at the truth. I like your quote you told me the other day: "The truth is a revolution".

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I love that quote, "In a time of UNIVERSAL DECEIT, to tell the TRUTH is a REVOLUTIONARY ACT." 

Not my own personal quote, I stole it from a bumper sticker I saw a week ago or so, but I just think it is so fitting for this case!

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Since I can see the stats...yes we have readers now 100 the last few days...I want to add that Nanette aka Habituation was put out on a limb by the FBI by all the reports they requested. I hope I got this straight but it first starts out with JT/Z Handwriting Comparisons, then Sac FBI wants JT/BD Handwriting Comparisons, then Sac FBI wants JT/LK Handwriting Comparisons. After these, they request ALL 3: Z/BD/LK Nuances then JT/Z Nuances. She was not paid a dime for these, done it all upon requests from Sac FBI (via Hopkins or straight from him). Remember folks, CBS13 has the news on JT being possibly linked to Black Dahlia, so, it's not just a rumor that FBI was looking into JT somehow linked to these crimes. Then we have what I believe is now being refered to as "The Jon Benet Ramsey Thing" which she was prompted to look at because of the BlogTalk interview and this is said to be what makes the FBI think Nanette is nuts for being beyound JT as Zodiac Killer. How can FBI have the gall to say she's way out there when they are the ones who put her there in the first place? This is my warning to the next Document Examiner who is rumored to be looking at JTs writings.....they will inspire you, encourage you and push and pull and put you there and then slam you for it in the end. You are just being used as a stepping stone. Nanette B will always be the one to have made the first ID/Connections anybody after that will be in the shadow of her accomplishments.  

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All my reports and the trail of handwriting left by Jack Tarrance Jr., can be found at: http://s948.photobucket.com/home/NanetteB_2009/index , Tanks for your words of encouragement catseye....



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You're welcome NanetteB and keep up the good work. I read most of your story at the locked thread. It's like reading a documentary and I am a documentary Geek! Busy day for me...gotta go....

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Nanette and all who read your MB, I just wanted it to be known that the stats for it in March were 1645 views, averaged 53 v/day and was up 23,400% since it started going again mid-March. Nanette, you know I love stats. They are the guidelines of what people want and/or what those who run MBs/Sites may want to improve on to get people to see what the site runners feel people should be looking at. Kudos to ya, girl!

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