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My Grandfather just indicated that the FBI training course was in Hill Fort,  Benecia Arsenal across the river from Mt. Diablo. The Air Force learned this course and taught it to the military back in his military career.

 

Does this explain the infatuation with Mt. Diablo and JT?

 

I am still screaming that JT had the inside somehow!


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Sure he did ! It's the muted silence by the major media, FBI, Justice department, LE etc.that  is very telling.

JT 101 is: Staging, staged crimes, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. All of his crimes are staged, "shock and ahw."

JT 101 is:  He puts his signature on the crimes very distinctively with his initials. JT's and j-hooks repeatedly used throughout his criminal career.

JT 101 is: Taunt everybody, victims family, police and the general public.

JT 101 is: I'm so much smarter than everyone else

JT 101 is: puts "Hi mom" wherever he can. Flova, Sorry Ma(ry) Ed Burns fake suicide note

JT 101 is: in-depth knowledge of his victims

JT 101 is: put the victims on a radian based off of Mount Diablo diablo= Spanish/Latin for bad animal, bad person etc as in diabolical

JT 101 is: poetic cross-connected clues, Degnan victim on Hollywood, Hollywood victim (BD) on Degnan (Norton dead end) Red outline heart tattoo on his arm, red outline heart on JBR's life lines on her hand.

JT 101 is: carefully posing of the remains after washing up the remains

Your turn Nanette.

 

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JT 101 is: an obsession with the exact time and date of his crimes

JT 101 is: a 4 line address box on the envelopes

JT 101 is: missives like can not instead of cannot, business and other words intentionally misspelled such as bussiness

JT 101 is: the use of a felt tipped pen

JT 101 is: the use of both archival and contemporary themes.

JT 101 is: the use of threatening commands that all share the same type of words like; Speaking; This is the Zodiac Speaking, Speaking to anyone about etc, I shall, You will, This is Next, You are Next, He is Next, Here it is, etc  Perhaps: "Pray it doesn't snow." as in OCCK

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JT 101 is: helpless victims, never really given a fighting chance with perhaps the exception of Hartnell and Mageau, however the killer still had the drop on them.

JT 101 is: an awfully "organized" serial killer, yet there is still "order out of chaos" with the "poetic" cross-connected clues.

JT 101 is: "fanciful" and artistically constructed documents

JT 101 is: letters that start out very vertically and slant over to the right towards the middle and end of the document

JT 101 is: envelope address boxes that slant downwards from left to right

JT 101 is: the use of double postage in his earlier crimes

JT 101 is: letters to the "editor" of newspapers

JT 101 is: the use of long stemmed lower case g's throughout his documents

JT 101 is: the use of "cryptic acronyms" at the end of his messages, such as; the "my name is" cipher, S.B.T.C  JBR ransom note,  A.Q.U.S.A in anthrax Goldman Sachs, etc

JT 101 is: specially constructed cryptic symbols that use a "dot" in them, many in Zodiac documents, the U in JBR ransom note, Scorpion letters etc.

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Hi TerryB, sorry I fell off the earth for so long, but I was acclimating Grandpa to my home. I mentioned before the Benecia Arsenal that was overlooked by Mt. Diablo, and tonight Grandpa told me about Red River Arsenal that was in Texarkana. I have started to think that there may be a pattern and as I cover the Zodiac room with Grandpa, I am sure that there will be more. I am finishing some proficiency testing for handwriting, and I am a case and a half away, and I will be onto the next project that includes all that we have been talking about.


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Hi Nanette, no problem, I understand completely.

It sounds like you're hinting at some "poetically  cross-connected clues." I think this is an area that the general public doesn't quite understand, I was the same way until I read some of John Douglas' writings. I think some people "get that" and some don't and some refuse to "buy it". It relates to the "order out of chaos" that he said the "organized" serial killer was trying to do. I know that you understood this concept a long time ago.I think it's one of those points that needs to be "driven home" to some people, otherwise they will just write us off as crazy for suggesting such a thing, some people will do that anyway because they simply don't know any better.

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As you know.... another JT 101 is the fact that all of the Zodiac killer post cards had a "jack" clue, jack rabbit on the Groucho card, jack ass and one-eyed jack on the Dragon card, jack-o-lantern belly on the skeleton card. Perhaps this comes under the heading of a "poetic cross-connected clue" but as well I think it deserves its own heading because of it's strength as evidence.

I know that I repeat statements many times and I do so to "drive certain points home," so to speak. I do this for the sake of newbies and undecided people so that certain points "sink in."

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JT 101 is: the fact that he favored the use of a felt tipped pen and all of the mentioned documents were made with a felt tipped pen except to the Chicago Lipstick wall writing in lipstick and Jeannie French's body in lipstick etc.

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I find that as an interesting point TerryB. Yes, the use of felt tip pen or a fountain style pen like the one found in JT's belongings is a commonality we cannot ignore. Just like the fact that the letters the "killers" attempted to disguise as seen in LK, BD, Z, and many more were the letters "a" "n" "l" "m" and "k". Would LE want us to believe that every cold case serial killer that has not been caught all used felt tip pens and for some unknown reason they all wanted to disguise these particular letters in every single writing. I'm betting that it is more likely that one person knew exactly which letters they needed to disguise, but like I have always said, "You will leave pieces of yourself behind, and this is exactly what JT did."

 

Jupiter, exactly what is it that you don't agree with about my handwriting examination of JT and Z's handwriting?


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Nanette, I wonder just how many serial killers really send in taunting letters, maybe more than I realize ? And, how many uses the same exact psycho-lingual babble as is found in these cases?

 I think that last photo on the evidence thread is another indication of Jack's attitude, the expression on his face is  kinda both menacing and detached. Couple that photo with the one showing him holding a gun on the women is also very telling of his attitude, normal people don't point guns at other people. Then we  have the menacing photo of Jack hanging his arms exactly the way the skeleton card has as well as BD and JonBenet Ramsey.

A photo compilation of Jack might well bolster the case. Some might say how could a sweet old boy like that do such a thing? Well.....somebody that was a so-called human being did those murders.

 The menacing  photo's of Jack are JT 101 as well.

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The murder of JonBenet Ramsey is in every way JT 101.

The Zodiac killer bragged that children were his next targets, he also bragged that he would make his future crimes appear to be something that they were not. He also sent in the "Paradice Slaves card with by knife, by gun, by rope, by fire. JonBenet Ramsey was by rope, her head was brutally bashed in after she was viciously sexually assaulted and twice choked with the garote, the second strangulation was meant to kill her and did.

It's my theory that her murder was a Zodiac murder by proxy, I say this based on the fact that the ransom note said "Follow our/my instructions to the letter", that message was in the note in three lines along with don't try to grow a brain and other warnings. "She dies" was also in there several times. I interpret this as a message to the actual killer of JBR telling him "Listen up, she dies!



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Jupiter, exactly what is it that you don't agree with about my handwriting examination of JT and Z's handwriting?


I've not studied handwriting analysis, so I don’t know the nuances, terminology, etc. to be able to give a point by point breakdown of where my concerns lie. For the bigger picture, I can relate a few of the things that makes me uncomfortable with your reports.
My initial concerns began when you asserted that someone had altered Jack’s letter “a” to prevent identification. I didn’t feel that the material presented adequately proved that assertion and I didn’t see any mention made of the “a” in “Vallejo” on Bryan Hartnell’s car door and how this could be reconciled with the alleged alterations.
I also have difficulty with the number of different criminal cases that have been attributed to Jack through the handwriting. I believe that Jack’s military records indicate that he was in California at the time of the 2nd and 3rd Lipstick Killings. His Navy discharge papers show that he entered Active Service, stationed in San Francisco, on December 12, 1945. The 2nd murder was committed 8 days later, and Degnan was killed 2 weeks after that. Having several family members in various branches of service, I know that to be granted leave within a week of being put on active duty would be rather rare. For me this casts doubt upon the validity of the match you’ve made between Jack and the writings from the Lipstick Killings. And I feel that if one match could be inaccurate then, by extension, so could matches to other, unrelated crimes like Z. In the same vein, I’ve read reports indicating that Tim Miller received that ominous letter in December 2005, 5 months after a main suspect in the I-45 cases had passed away. According to Kaufman, Jack was with him, Tina, Charles, and Mary in Washington from Thanksgiving through Christmas, and so couldn’t have gone to TX to mail the letter.

These are a few of my concerns regarding your analysis. Although our opinions differ markedly, I hope you can see that I did not dismiss your work out of hand but that I came to a different conclusion based upon the information I gathered for myself.
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The JBR ransom letter made use of three styles of the letter "a", that's an important clue.

The curved stem "f's," the back bowed stems on the "y's' are two letters that caused me to look deeper and further.  Nanette has done two presentations that take all of the letters of the alphabet in upper and lower case as well as style and type and matched them by an elegantly  simple method of overlay.

I've seen the argument about where Jack was during the post war era and I think those that bring up that argument are grasping at straws. I've seen at least 3ea web pages on 3ea specially dedicated sites, specially dedicated to that one argument that follows with the conclusion and in big print: therefore Dennis and Nanette are liars. Those pages demonstrate to me that there is a conspiracy to cover in these cases. Jupiter gives away who he/she is with all the nonsense he/she has posted here so far

I 45 and Tim Miller parts of these cases is something Nanette will have to respond to because I haven't made enough of a study of it and it seems to me that there wasn't enough  documentation for me to examine, except to say that the "Boo it's Me" , "more fun that a barrel of monkeys" etc ....really all of the same psycho-lingual babble on the cut and paste letter was most definitely like Zodiac Jack 101 however; I've seen no handwriting documents in those cases.

Jupiter said he/she didn't wanna discuss the evidence but continues to do just that. Why don't you use your real first name Jupiter?  You chose to select what you wanna talk about and haven't responded to questions regarding core evidence, you've ducked those questions, that's not bantering you, that's a FACT !



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You guys need to stop with all the banter. There is absolutely no reason why one statement of disagreement should not end this matter between you two. It only takes one person to stop. If your ego cannot handle this then this board is not for you.

Nanette deleted a post of yours very similiar to this one, TerryB so I believe she does feel this is bantering.
I will be the one to stop. I'll respond to any comments you may have for me, Nanette.

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I also think that the sophisticated way in which the handle of the garotte was constructed in the JBR murder is very much JT101. The tail end of the cord was under the outer wraps of the cord, the pull line was perfectly centered and the whole think was very ergonomic.

Someone pointed out that is was like an emergency small engine starting cord, most early gas powered  lawn mowers and boat motors used a cord that was manually wrapped around a special hub that had a notch in it for the knotted end of the cord to hook into. Most boat motors still have these emergency starting hubs under the engine cover.

I believe that a young person and even a young mechanic isn't gonna make a handle in that manner, the construction of that handle is very unique. I'll bet that somewhere in an old issue of Popular Mechanics or Better Homes etc there might be an article that demonstrates the exact way that cord and handle were assembled. I'll research it from that angle.

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