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There's some question whether the skyjacker himself filled in DAn COopEr on the ticket, or the ticket agent filled it in. The odds that it was a ticket agent's workmanship are astronomically improbable, given the detailed overall analysis that I present here. I also have complete faith in Nanette's workmanship on this same item. There's no question in my mind that it is an encryption and that this is reaffirmed by the "Hospitality" documents, as well as the "system that beats the system" documents, found in the FBI's NORJACK files. This is very strong evidence that the UNSUB/Cooper survived the jump, and it is pivotal in the understanding of the entire Cooper caper:

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Yes Terry, Catseye's solves have shown mob/government involvement, Nixon, Bush, Clintons, which coincides with the Atlanta Georgia Child Killer who boasted that "politicians were running around with their heads cut off like chickens." I found out more about the handwriting of Jack. In a graphology session via zoom I was able to get Jack's handwriting read by many graphology analysts at once. I am going to list the items they threw out that the handwriting told them about Jack. First I used the 1985 HP report about the female sergeant Jack was reprimanding which was printed, and a 1990's or 2000's cursive samples written to Dennis Kaufman and Joy. I did not tell them who he was or that I identified him as the Zodiac Killer.
These are the characteristics that they found:

1. Smart
2. Good character
3. organized
4. secretive - private
5. depressed
6. detail oriented
7. concentration
8. military - everything in triplicate - lol if they only knew they were looking at the Zodiac's handwriting 
9. keeping ego in check
10. receiving pressure from bosses or persons above him
11. issues with his chain of command
12. has outbursts
13. has control - ooooh this one was so Zodiac Jack 101
14. jealousy
15. in charge
16. rebellious
17. temper
18. does not get close to others and takes his space
19. protecting
20. uncomfortable
21. suspicious
22. leery and watching
23. philosophical
24. go to hell trait - defiance
25. Finally - one analyst spouted out that he would have been perfect for the CIA ----- OMG I busted up laughing!

This means that now that personality traits of Jack's handwriting absolutely matches the Zodiac's known behavior and profile as we know it, a linguistic professor from UC Davis verified that the linguistics match, I have determined that the handwriting and use of diagraming is the same. I do not know of another suspect that reaches the level of favorable comparative evidence as Jack does in the entire history of this case. Not ONE!





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There are solves on the DB Cooper case from catseye as well. I need to get all the skymarshall letters to her and get her work up that is complete so far. The recent letters have revealed that Tom Voight was not only written to with evidence of Jack, but he is also addressed to in one of the ciphered messages so this makes sense as to how he was able to gain the reigns of the Zodiac case with color scans and all. These is definitely collusion on TV's part with disseminating the real linformation on the Zodiac Killer and hating Dennis Kaufman so bad. Also, how TV ends up on John Walsh who the Zodiac contacted as well, and how Bart Baggett ended up on the show with both these individuals as well. If we remember, Bart told me I was in over my head. I just didn't know that he meant that he was the one swimming with them in the attempt to pass off Debra Perez. I will try to get the new info up shortly from catseye, but there is a lot.
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Nanette, I was gonna ask you about whether or not and how often he used the slanted crossbar, as seen in the letter A in "DAn." I was watching an old television episode of the original Star Trek show the other night and noticed the type of script fonts which were used for that show lead in and lead out, and they have the slanted crossbars characteristics. Knowing that he liked to incorporate movie and TV references in his writings, is what caught my attention on this subject. Also, I think it's a good idea see if we can glean any other possible meanings therein?

What are the premises and methodology by which these "graphology experts" operate? I'm currently more that fatigued with all of the statement analysis people that are greatly misreading the Ramsey ransom note, in order to fit their own narratives and half-baked theories. However, these characteristics that you've listed do make overall sense to me.

I'm still waiting to examine catseye's "solve" methodology too.


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The downward slant of the cross bar indicates = issues with chain of command

They analyze the strokes of the writing which coincide with behaviors/personality... They assess personality through handwriting. FBI, USPS, CIA and all have used these methods for over a 100 years to profile suspects. However, it has to be done right in order to not make a mistake and is compared to a polygraph as far as validity because of factors that could skew the results.

Every characteristic they spoke of about Jack's handwriting is related to the way the letter is formed. Like the bell top "a" that is concaved instead of rainbowed above the bowl of the "a" indicates that he is receiving pressure from his chain of command.

The pop out or standout letters like the capital "K" in the middle of lower case writing indicates defiance and go to hell attitude. This would include any letter that is capitalized in the middle of lower case writings like his use of the "M" and "W" shaped "N". These are all pop out letters. He does it with the letter "R" as well as seen in the Dan Cooper writing. What set me into motion on the Ramsey letter was the finding of these pop out letter "M" and "N" in the last few paragraphs of the Ramsey letter where the author seems to have straightened out the disguise probably due to fatigue and the inability to maintain a lengthy disguise once he made it to the third page. This tells me that this letter was worked on for quite some time as you indicated. It was not quickly written by any means! Methodically is just the perfect word to describe it!

I do not know if the passenger writes their name on these tickets or if the airline personnel does? It would seem to me that they would fill the ticket out, but I have no way of knowing what the protocol was then. If it is contended that the suspect wrote this, then we can discuss the findings on the handwriting. It has key identifiers that are consistent with what we have been studying, that's for sure!

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Posted today at Mountain News for the sake of those that truly wanna discuss case facts:

Terry Battcher says:

It’s not surprising to me that the FBI operates that way. Most people don’t realize that the FBI is a political arm of the US government, but who do they all answer to? Hoover became a powerful bureaucratic entity once he got the big appropriations following his take down of John Dillinger. A lot of politicians feared Hoover, because he had files on EVERYBODY that was anybody. I couldn’t find a good picture of Hahnenman on the net. I think that it’s really important that the Cooper community researchers study the airline ticket and the documents that followed the skyjacking. You can see a correlation of how the DAn COopEr signature compares to how, for one example; the Hospitality envelope and letter were constructed. Count the number of pen strokes that were used in making each letter of “DAn COopEr.” I assert that it was probably a common practice in those days for the passenger to fill out his or her own name on the ticket . Think about the probable confusion that could occur if the ticket agent is asking for a passenger’s name and the spelling of their name. No, I think the common practice was for the passenger to write in his or her name and hand it to the ticket agent. Think about concerns for a passenger’s privacy as well. Furthermore, it seems to me that the news media stated that the only sample that the FBI had of the hijacker handwriting, was on the airline ticket, and they went on to point out that COopEr didn’t leave the ransom note behind. It’s also typical of the lockstep media outlets to continue with the “DB Cooper” description of the case, when that was a completely wrongful description. There never was a “DB” Cooper, however, the taunting documents contained a “BD” Cooper description/name. In the course of my research, the “BD” Cooper hint is very important indeed, because one of the first cases we linked to the Zodiac killer cases was the 1947 Black Dahlia case. Former LA detective Steve Hodel makes this same linkage, however the evidence clearly shows that his dad was not the person that murdered cabbie Paul Stine. Paul Stine was the last “official” Zodiac killer victim. “The Zodiac killer” description was media hype that began right before the murder of Paul Stine. Bear in mind that there never was a “Zodiac killer,” only the ‘shock and awe’ media hype. None of the crimes that we link were what they seem. One of John Mark Karr’s soundbite statements was: “Things are not what they seem.” NORJACK was not what it seems…think about everything that there is in the NORJACK case for you to work with! How are ALL of the basic elements currently adding up?




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OK, SKYMARSHALLS envelope anagram solve by Harriette Sucher using all information found on it:

VP Spiro Agne(w) ALA SIS OF Rivers(I)d(e) CC Supply Ferrin Lass GH Suit th(e) A.M. Hall Timecard (in) E(a)st Stat(e)li(n)e NV Y (t)o shoot (A)G RK Lower R Templ(e)

Message is to: VP Spiro Agnew - who coincidentally is the VP in early 1970's,

Message reports: Arthur Leigh Allen - Sister (most probably sister in law who tried to finger Allen as the Zodiac Killer) Karen Allen - of Riverside Community College supplied Darlene Ferrin the Lass General Hospital uniform and the After Midnight Timecard in East Stateline NV Y to shoot Attorney General Robert Kennedy in the lower right temple.

Other ciphered messages indicated the RK made it through surgery from the bullet wound, but died in ICU after surgery due to something that Ferrin had done using items supplied by Lass. I did not know what to think of these messages, but here is how the research is rounding out.

ALA has been connected to Riverside long before any of these messages occurred and they wanted to pin Cheri Jo Bates on him at one time as well. There has been considerable rumors about the possibility of ALA knowing Ferrin before her murder. Jack said that he knew ALA, and gave, "that nice teacher a ride home from Lake Berryessa. It is possible that Jack was with Nora if the recollection of ALA was correct in an interview discussed at this site: https://zodiackillerfacts.com/zodiac-theories/the-accused-the-accusers/allen-primed-suspect/arthur-leigh-allen-primed-suspect/  "Allen added that he had met a service man and his wife. Allen could not remember the couple’s name, but said he had it written down somewhere at home. He then claimed to have spoken to a neighbor upon his return to Vallejo at approximately 4:00pm." Either way, he admittedly knew ALA... I believe that there was talk that Jack had been taking flying lessons with a friend during 1971, and I believe there was talk that ALA had a pilot's license???

FWIW, Arthur Leigh Allen WAS a pilot, but he didn't get his license until 1982.We can find Zodiac like-symbols here and there in aeronautical charts (the symbol for an abandoned airport resembles a tilted Zodiac symbol) but I'm sticking with the gunsight as Zodiac's logo. After all, he didn't kill anyone with an airplane... that we know of.

 Lends to a good story, so stay with me. If ALA was who Jack was flying with in preparation for the DB Cooper caper this would surely tie together much information.

In East Stateline Nevada, Frank Sinatra who is swirling in connections to all this information in one way or another in the ciphered messages, owns CALNEV resort which Harriette and I passed by on our trip to see if the boulders at the "y" existed. Agnew borrows $200,000 from Sinatra in 1973 after taking the political fall for bribes and tax evasion even though every politician was doing it at the time. Spiro Agnew was accused of taking bribes from individuals who preferred to see the slot machines remain running which is a direct tie to mob/gambling/politics.

The Zodiac Watch, the royal typewriter, and many more of the known coincidences between the Zodiac and ALA could be established in setting ALA up as the patsy to deter from the real people involved.

Other ciphered messages from the DB Cooper group brings us right back to Marilyn Monroe, Hoffa, Kennedy's, Nembitol and other frequently seen messages found from pre-Zodiac era communications. I really need to sit down and put all this together in chronological order to see if it helps to seal one message to another.

Harriette believes that the base meaning of Spiro Agnew relates directly to the Zodiac symbol, and that this was his call out. Certainly Spiro was around during WWII just like Jack, and he circled many of the areas involved in the Zodiac/entire crime spree as to the involvement of politicians/mob/gambling and handlers. Very scary stuff! This may again elude to why the Ghost Killer of Atlanta Georgia indicated that, "politicians were running around with their heads cut off like chickens." to paraphrase!



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Donna Lass or was there a "Lass" Hospital? I think that I already know the answer on this.

The Ramsey ransom note has multiple messages and any written document can be used to carry, contain and hold one or more messages, if you have the key or keys needed. Those zigzag patterns would be the type of key needed. One would have to have the patience of trial and error in the use and exploration of the key or keys.

ALA would have fit the profile of an unwitting accomplice in some of the Zodiac era events. John Mark Karr fully fits the profile of an accomplice in the Ramsey case, but the evidence shows that he was  much more "witting" than it did with Arthur Leigh Allen. However, I don't believe that either person was fully aware of how they were being used and manipulated. 

BTW, you can also see how the zigzag decoding pattern is being alluded to in the Cooper/NORJAK "Hospitality" letter and envelope.

I can state with certainty that ALL of the cases that we study, show evidence that they were all paramilitary operations.

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The DB Cooper letter sent December 1971 addressed to Membership Secretary United States Parachute Association reads per Harriette:

TO POLICE D, CHRONICLE NEWSPAPER, CTY R(E)PORTER HERB C IN SAN FRANCISCO-
I.O. M.O. ZODIAC IN L BERRY(E)SSA SUIT NAP(A) CO 41 6' 187LB 4 DC JFK (and) DC BRO(TH)ER BOBBY TOO-TARRANCE

Be right back need to verify something...

Via Washington Post February 2, 1997: Herb Caen, 80, the longtime San Francisco newspaper local columnist whose six-decade-long effort to report on the city's fans, foibles and fables made him something of a national institution, died of cancer yesterday at a San Francisco hospital.

He began writing his six-day-a-week column for the San Francisco Chronicle in 1938. He wrote for the San Francisco Examiner from 1950 to 1958, then returned to the Chronicle, where he worked until his death.


It shows that Herb Caen was in fact working for the Chronicle in 1971. Interesting since this helps to confirm that the decoded message is correct to this degree... Go Harriette!

Now this makes me rethink Debra Perez appearing on the steps of the Chronicle to deliver her fake attempt at media blitzing America with yet more lies in the Zodiac case, and why the Chronicle gave her any energy or time, but have never looked into Dennis' assertions about Jack. SFPD was right on this boat as well and they are being called out in the letter as well!


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Nanette, I'll have to look up that particular document and study it. Can you please post catseye's methodology which she used to arrive at that message that you've posted?

Doubling back on the NW airline ticket with some additional points: 1)The handwriting on it is in red ink, as was the drawing on JonBenet's palm.(yet another Psalms hint too?) 2) The implied letter p on the NW ticket hints at a backward stemmed letter J, as was the backwards stemmed J on JonBenet's hand. 3) Both of these images act as a primary JT hints, with a Zodiac killer's cross hairs symbol on JBR's hand. 4) The font of the letter A on the NW ticket, with it's slanted crossbar... hints at the word "Action," as seen on the original Star Trek TV show fonts. 5) You yourself posted the horoscope document that is claimed to have proceeded the Cooper caper, which has the words "ACTION WATCH" on it. 6) And yes, it's very likely that the Dan Cooper action hero comic books were part of his inspiration in choosing that same name on the NW ticket. 

I still have ideas to research and ponder with regard to his "Magic Amulet"  hint seen on the horoscope document that you posted. Look up the word Amulet for more ideas. I'm also thinking that the UNSUB in the Cooper caper had an electronic device that helped him zero in on his ground target, as a redundant aid....and perhaps that it might have been the actual "Magic Amulet," that he's hinting.

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I didn't know that Dan Cooper was a comic book series that makes perfect sense when the Zodiac Killer used Dick Tracy Comics as his inspiration and knew about comics that had not been released to the public yet. These were distributed at a Chicago newspaper.

Harriette used an anagram method on the envelope sent to Portland News Paper - Oregonian = Dr. Hodel OP on a B.D. Gal, Dan Cooper Northwest Orient OP was for MD War Ace Vice President Spiro Agnew Pal F S(I)NA(T)RA - UN Spy People

And, Agnew borrowed $200,000 from Sinatra to restart his life. Interesting that the loan amount is exactly the same amount that DB Cooper requested. Coincidence or not???

Now she has another message that names Hodell and Ray and an editor of the Oregonian that had recorded the dirty deed on B.D. The messages that are being conveyed is that this took place on a train.

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Dan Cooper was a comic book released only in Canada at the time. Also remember the vintage Tim Holt/cowboy actor comic book 'Wheel of Death,' which was apparently the inspiration for the Paradice Slaves(sic) Zodiac killer document, with the 4 quadrants of death threats. I think it's posted in this same thread.

BTW, have you ever noticed that when the TV show 'Wheel of Fortune' starts out with the audience chant of "Wheel of Fortune," it comes off sounding like "Wheel of Torture?"

I recall you saying that catseye had some "grid" method that she used on the 340 cipher. I do recall her work on the Hospitality/post DB Cooper document, with those same results. 

I've never seen any direct evidence that Hodel or Man Ray(sp) were directly involved in the Black Dahlia/E. Short murder. However, all of these crimes seemed to have several default suspects rigged into the backdrop stories. I'm not saying that Harriet/catseye didn't find these things, because it definitely a viewable and repetitive feature in the last several crime series. I just don't wanna give any such evidence any more weight that it truly deserves in terms of determining who's ultimately responsible for the crime(s). Yes, it seems that ALA was rigged into the Zodiac killer background story too, as was John Mark Karr rigged into the Ramsey murder story. It's like detective Lou Smit falsely assuming, by the superficial "inferring" evidence, that a violent pedophilia was solely responsible for the Ramsey murder... he's been lulled into "taking the bait," so to speak. Otherwise, I greatly admire Lou Smit and his workmanship. Perhaps Smit simply wasn't done working the evidence when he made the statements to the same effect? So yes, Nanette, the resulting anagrams that Harriet came up with, could very well fit into things. I think that ALA (Arthur Leigh Allen) was rigged into the backdrop story, but he himself was probably not wittingly or directly involved in the Zodiac killer crimes. 

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     Last night I discovered that the Quest TV channel on local digital channel 11.4 was running a DB Cooper documentary which was promoting the latest darling suspect Duane Weber. I only caught the last 20 minutes of this same program and in that last 20 minutes they managed to trip my bullshit detector several times!

     First and foremost; FBI Norjak FOIA historical files clearly show evidence of a near LeCenter Washington drop zone and from three (3ea) separate sources! So forget the Lewis River bullshit and the wilderness jump bullshit,  etc.  

    So, I went to YouTube to look for this same "program" and first discovered yet another bullshit documentary "program" titled 'The Skyjacker That Got Away,' which has footage's of Earl Cossey, Larry "Karr" and Tom Kaye giving their half-baked opinions and faulty conclusions. Yet no mentions (no surprise) about the FBI files that contain the taunting documents that show proof that whomever composed them had possession of inside crime scene knowledge!

Why was Earl Cossey mysteriously bludgeoned to death sometime after this so-called documentary was filmed? I  currently have no idea why, and I'll add that my takeaway is that he wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but maybe something clued him in after he gave that same interview footage?

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I just got done trying to joint the live chat function here: Can An Unethical Hewson Hack Explain Jonbenet Bit Spread Stand Down or Pentagon Penetrator? on YouTube and I was invited to chat too. Someone is very very afraid of the truth about the Ramsey case.
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Here's a copy of my exchange of messages with Bruce A Smith on Mountain News. The main subject is about the stewardess Tina Mucklow and why she's laid so low in the Cooper/Norjak case:
Me to Bruce: If she has something against you personally, it’s probably been planted there by those that seek to suppress the whole truth about the highly sophisticated Cooper caper. In other words, her polarity against you personally may be altogether merit-less? Wouldn’t it be interesting if she actually lurks this site on a regular basis!(?)
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March 8, 2019 at 3:03 pm    

Tina and Me:
I‘d want to hear the whole story. But here are some highlights:
1. How did the money bag get onboard?
2. What was your interaction with the FBI agent who came onboard? How did he leave?
3. What was the ruckus about in Row 12?
4. What was it like being a cloistered nun?
5. Why 30 years of silence?
6. Why break the silence by talking with the Eugene Weekly in 2012?
7. Why appear on the History Channel documentary?
8. What are you so angry about?
9. Do you feel you had special abilities to handle DB Cooper?
10. How do you feel about Bill Rataczak’s profound gratitude and affection towards you?
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March 9, 2019 at 10:05 am    Wow, that’s a lot of questions Bruce, and some that are very pointed. Thank you for sharing all of that. My next two tasks are to get your book and to see if I can find the Eugene weekly interview.
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March 9, 2019 at 8:08 pm    
At the risk of being rude, Terry, it’s aboutfuckingtime…
…smile.
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        March 12, 2019 at 4:26 pm     Well Bruce, you’re right about that, but I’ve had a lot on my plate these days. My dear mother passed away last Sept and I’m the personal rep of her estate. Plus, I already had a rather large to-do list when I first arrived here. I did search the net for all things Tina and still haven’t found some of the things that you pointed out. It seems to me that I recall you or someone here stating that the UNSUB traumatized her with some outrageous remarks. That might well very explain her behavior vs anything that you did? Except that perhaps she knows the the Cooper caper is one big heavy handed conspiracy, vs a guy like you trying to get at the truth? I suspect that the History Channel is yet another tool of the deep state.
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March 12, 2019 at 7:00 pm    Terry, regarding Tina and any violence/unsavory acts done to her by DB Cooper:
There are rumors. Here is what I know.
1. Ralph Himmelsbach has called DBC a rotten, sleazy criminal for decades, but has never spelled out exactly why he uses that characterization.

2. Galen told me that when he last spoke with Florence Schaffner in 2009, she felt that DBC may have sexually assaulted Tina during the supposed 45 minutes they were alone in the aft cabin. That would be after the passengers left and before take-off, minus any time spent re-fueling and dealing with those affairs. I have no corroboration on the 45-minutes alone, nor the assault.

3. Jo Weber says that Duane went and found Tina in Gresham/Portland in the 1979 time-frame when Jo and Duane were traveling to Seattle from Colorado. Jo says that Duane mentally and psychologically assaulted Tina at that time. Again, no corroboration.

4. I have speculated at the DZ about ten years ago that one of the reasons that Tina was so skilled at handling DB Cooper was that she may have been physically or sexually assaulted earlier in her life and knew full-well how to deal with predators who were threatening her and people she cared about. I have ceased speaking about that angle since I have absolutely no corroborating evidence to support the theory, and numerous readers have objected to my speculations.

5. Over the past ten years I have frequently speculated that something sinister may have happened to Tina after the skyjacking that caused her great troubles, such as landing her in the long-term health care facility in Gresham, Oregon by 1979. What those scenarios were are hard to fathom, but could involve MKULTRA-like processes to obtain her silence or compliance, or guilt or anxieties arising from having to support the official narrative of the skyjacking put out by NWO and the FBI, ie: white-washing the actual events on 305 during the skyjacking, such as the arrival of an FBI agent, the ruckus in Row 12, moving the passengers forward at a much later time then publicly stated, etc. It is issues such as these that lead me to say that if we knew more about Tina, then we would know more about NORJAK.
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    Terry Battcher says:    
March 14, 2019 at 12:13 pm    

Part of what you said Bruce was: "What those scenarios were are hard to fathom, but could involve MKULTRA-like processes to obtain her silence or compliance, or guilt or anxieties arising from having to support the official narrative of the skyjacking put out by NWO and the FBI, ie: white-washing the actual events on 305 during the skyjacking, such as the arrival of an FBI agent, the ruckus in Row 12, moving the passengers forward at a much later time then publicly stated, etc. It is issues such as these that lead me to say that if we knew more about Tina, then we would know more about NORJAK." Unquote
My response:   That does make sense to me and does fit in with other crimes that Nanette and I agree are linked. Nanette was way ahead of me on the MKULTRA business, so I had to play catch up ball on that too. Let me clarify that I don’t disagree with her on any of her case linkages, it’s just that she’s much more studied on the several other crimes that she has linked. If it wasn’t for her, I’d know nothing about the DB Cooper case.
Given what we do know what happened to Tina, I’d say that those are not reckless speculations that you cite. The UNSUB very like did a lot to mess with Tina’s mind, which would explain Himmelsbach’s remarks about the UNSUB. It fits.
Did you ever wonder if Cooper used some of the parachute cord to tie the loafers to his feet?
Thanks again Bruce.
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    brucesmith49 says: March 14, 2019 at 12:16 pm    
Parachute cord to tie loafers to his feet? Hmmm. Possible, but I’m a Duct Tape kind of guy, and I would hope that DBC wold use something with more stick-um than the stiff, unwieldy rope from a parachute.
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    Terry Battcher says:    
March 15, 2019 at 9:05 am    Bruce, if you like regular duct tape, try gaffers tape, as was used on the Ramsey girl, which I read as yet another one of the author of the ransom note’s (JT) many messages. However, gaffers tape is much more expensive.
Did the Cooper UNSUB have duct tape with him? Perhaps something to keep the sunglasses, which would act as googles, on his head? Perhaps he had an aviators hood too? Everybody makes a big deal about him getting cold, but he probably wasn’t “in the blast” very long.
BTW, the sheer number of JT inclusions on the Ramsey ransom note is by far the most redundant hint on the damn thing. Hence my “author/(JT)” usage. It’s inclusion(s) reminds me of gang graffiti.
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I added: I hope that Tina will muster the courage to let the public in on what happened to her in the Norjak/Cooper saga, it wasn't her fault. Bad things often happen to good people. Our JT suspect was one very rough and nasty  SOB.

    
    


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