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There's some question whether the skyjacker himself filled in DAn COopEr on the ticket, or the ticket agent filled it in. The odds that it was a ticket agent's workmanship are astronomically improbable, given the detailed overall analysis that I present here. I also have complete faith in Nanette's workmanship on this same item. There's no question in my mind that it is an encryption and that this is reaffirmed by the "Hospitality" documents, as well as the "system that beats the system" documents, found in the FBI's NORJACK files. This is very strong evidence that the UNSUB/Cooper survived the jump, and it is pivotal in the understanding of the entire Cooper caper:

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Yes Terry, Catseye's solves have shown mob/government involvement, Nixon, Bush, Clintons, which coincides with the Atlanta Georgia Child Killer who boasted that "politicians were running around with their heads cut off like chickens." I found out more about the handwriting of Jack. In a graphology session via zoom I was able to get Jack's handwriting read by many graphology analysts at once. I am going to list the items they threw out that the handwriting told them about Jack. First I used the 1985 HP report about the female sergeant Jack was reprimanding which was printed, and a 1990's or 2000's cursive samples written to Dennis Kaufman and Joy. I did not tell them who he was or that I identified him as the Zodiac Killer.
These are the characteristics that they found:

1. Smart
2. Good character
3. organized
4. secretive - private
5. depressed
6. detail oriented
7. concentration
8. military - everything in triplicate - lol if they only knew they were looking at the Zodiac's handwriting 
9. keeping ego in check
10. receiving pressure from bosses or persons above him
11. issues with his chain of command
12. has outbursts
13. has control - ooooh this one was so Zodiac Jack 101
14. jealousy
15. in charge
16. rebellious
17. temper
18. does not get close to others and takes his space
19. protecting
20. uncomfortable
21. suspicious
22. leery and watching
23. philosophical
24. go to hell trait - defiance
25. Finally - one analyst spouted out that he would have been perfect for the CIA ----- OMG I busted up laughing!

This means that now that personality traits of Jack's handwriting absolutely matches the Zodiac's known behavior and profile as we know it, a linguistic professor from UC Davis verified that the linguistics match, I have determined that the handwriting and use of diagraming is the same. I do not know of another suspect that reaches the level of favorable comparative evidence as Jack does in the entire history of this case. Not ONE!





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There are solves on the DB Cooper case from catseye as well. I need to get all the skymarshall letters to her and get her work up that is complete so far. The recent letters have revealed that Tom Voight was not only written to with evidence of Jack, but he is also addressed to in one of the ciphered messages so this makes sense as to how he was able to gain the reigns of the Zodiac case with color scans and all. These is definitely collusion on TV's part with disseminating the real linformation on the Zodiac Killer and hating Dennis Kaufman so bad. Also, how TV ends up on John Walsh who the Zodiac contacted as well, and how Bart Baggett ended up on the show with both these individuals as well. If we remember, Bart told me I was in over my head. I just didn't know that he meant that he was the one swimming with them in the attempt to pass off Debra Perez. I will try to get the new info up shortly from catseye, but there is a lot.
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Nanette, I was gonna ask you about whether or not and how often he used the slanted crossbar, as seen in the letter A in "DAn." I was watching an old television episode of the original Star Trek show the other night and noticed the type of script fonts which were used for that show lead in and lead out, and they have the slanted crossbars characteristics. Knowing that he liked to incorporate movie and TV references in his writings, is what caught my attention on this subject. Also, I think it's a good idea see if we can glean any other possible meanings therein?

What are the premises and methodology by which these "graphology experts" operate? I'm currently more that fatigued with all of the statement analysis people that are greatly misreading the Ramsey ransom note, in order to fit their own narratives and half-baked theories. However, these characteristics that you've listed do make overall sense to me.

I'm still waiting to examine catseye's "solve" methodology too.


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The downward slant of the cross bar indicates = issues with chain of command

They analyze the strokes of the writing which coincide with behaviors/personality... They assess personality through handwriting. FBI, USPS, CIA and all have used these methods for over a 100 years to profile suspects. However, it has to be done right in order to not make a mistake and is compared to a polygraph as far as validity because of factors that could skew the results.

Every characteristic they spoke of about Jack's handwriting is related to the way the letter is formed. Like the bell top "a" that is concaved instead of rainbowed above the bowl of the "a" indicates that he is receiving pressure from his chain of command.

The pop out or standout letters like the capital "K" in the middle of lower case writing indicates defiance and go to hell attitude. This would include any letter that is capitalized in the middle of lower case writings like his use of the "M" and "W" shaped "N". These are all pop out letters. He does it with the letter "R" as well as seen in the Dan Cooper writing. What set me into motion on the Ramsey letter was the finding of these pop out letter "M" and "N" in the last few paragraphs of the Ramsey letter where the author seems to have straightened out the disguise probably due to fatigue and the inability to maintain a lengthy disguise once he made it to the third page. This tells me that this letter was worked on for quite some time as you indicated. It was not quickly written by any means! Methodically is just the perfect word to describe it!

I do not know if the passenger writes their name on these tickets or if the airline personnel does? It would seem to me that they would fill the ticket out, but I have no way of knowing what the protocol was then. If it is contended that the suspect wrote this, then we can discuss the findings on the handwriting. It has key identifiers that are consistent with what we have been studying, that's for sure!

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Posted today at Mountain News for the sake of those that truly wanna discuss case facts:

Terry Battcher says:

It’s not surprising to me that the FBI operates that way. Most people don’t realize that the FBI is a political arm of the US government, but who do they all answer to? Hoover became a powerful bureaucratic entity once he got the big appropriations following his take down of John Dillinger. A lot of politicians feared Hoover, because he had files on EVERYBODY that was anybody. I couldn’t find a good picture of Hahnenman on the net. I think that it’s really important that the Cooper community researchers study the airline ticket and the documents that followed the skyjacking. You can see a correlation of how the DAn COopEr signature compares to how, for one example; the Hospitality envelope and letter were constructed. Count the number of pen strokes that were used in making each letter of “DAn COopEr.” I assert that it was probably a common practice in those days for the passenger to fill out his or her own name on the ticket . Think about the probable confusion that could occur if the ticket agent is asking for a passenger’s name and the spelling of their name. No, I think the common practice was for the passenger to write in his or her name and hand it to the ticket agent. Think about concerns for a passenger’s privacy as well. Furthermore, it seems to me that the news media stated that the only sample that the FBI had of the hijacker handwriting, was on the airline ticket, and they went on to point out that COopEr didn’t leave the ransom note behind. It’s also typical of the lockstep media outlets to continue with the “DB Cooper” description of the case, when that was a completely wrongful description. There never was a “DB” Cooper, however, the taunting documents contained a “BD” Cooper description/name. In the course of my research, the “BD” Cooper hint is very important indeed, because one of the first cases we linked to the Zodiac killer cases was the 1947 Black Dahlia case. Former LA detective Steve Hodel makes this same linkage, however the evidence clearly shows that his dad was not the person that murdered cabbie Paul Stine. Paul Stine was the last “official” Zodiac killer victim. “The Zodiac killer” description was media hype that began right before the murder of Paul Stine. Bear in mind that there never was a “Zodiac killer,” only the ‘shock and awe’ media hype. None of the crimes that we link were what they seem. One of John Mark Karr’s soundbite statements was: “Things are not what they seem.” NORJACK was not what it seems…think about everything that there is in the NORJACK case for you to work with! How are ALL of the basic elements currently adding up?




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OK, SKYMARSHALLS envelope anagram solve by Harriette Sucher using all information found on it:

VP Spiro Agne(w) ALA SIS OF Rivers(I)d(e) CC Supply Ferrin Lass GH Suit th(e) A.M. Hall Timecard (in) E(a)st Stat(e)li(n)e NV Y (t)o shoot (A)G RK Lower R Templ(e)

Message is to: VP Spiro Agnew - who coincidentally is the VP in early 1970's,

Message reports: Arthur Leigh Allen - Sister (most probably sister in law who tried to finger Allen as the Zodiac Killer) Karen Allen - of Riverside Community College supplied Darlene Ferrin the Lass General Hospital uniform and the After Midnight Timecard in East Stateline NV Y to shoot Attorney General Robert Kennedy in the lower right temple.

Other ciphered messages indicated the RK made it through surgery from the bullet wound, but died in ICU after surgery due to something that Ferrin had done using items supplied by Lass. I did not know what to think of these messages, but here is how the research is rounding out.

ALA has been connected to Riverside long before any of these messages occurred and they wanted to pin Cheri Jo Bates on him at one time as well. There has been considerable rumors about the possibility of ALA knowing Ferrin before her murder. Jack said that he knew ALA, and gave, "that nice teacher a ride home from Lake Berryessa. It is possible that Jack was with Nora if the recollection of ALA was correct in an interview discussed at this site: https://zodiackillerfacts.com/zodiac-theories/the-accused-the-accusers/allen-primed-suspect/arthur-leigh-allen-primed-suspect/  "Allen added that he had met a service man and his wife. Allen could not remember the couple’s name, but said he had it written down somewhere at home. He then claimed to have spoken to a neighbor upon his return to Vallejo at approximately 4:00pm." Either way, he admittedly knew ALA... I believe that there was talk that Jack had been taking flying lessons with a friend during 1971, and I believe there was talk that ALA had a pilot's license???

FWIW, Arthur Leigh Allen WAS a pilot, but he didn't get his license until 1982.We can find Zodiac like-symbols here and there in aeronautical charts (the symbol for an abandoned airport resembles a tilted Zodiac symbol) but I'm sticking with the gunsight as Zodiac's logo. After all, he didn't kill anyone with an airplane... that we know of.

 Lends to a good story, so stay with me. If ALA was who Jack was flying with in preparation for the DB Cooper caper this would surely tie together much information.

In East Stateline Nevada, Frank Sinatra who is swirling in connections to all this information in one way or another in the ciphered messages, owns CALNEV resort which Harriette and I passed by on our trip to see if the boulders at the "y" existed. Agnew borrows $200,000 from Sinatra in 1973 after taking the political fall for bribes and tax evasion even though every politician was doing it at the time. Spiro Agnew was accused of taking bribes from individuals who preferred to see the slot machines remain running which is a direct tie to mob/gambling/politics.

The Zodiac Watch, the royal typewriter, and many more of the known coincidences between the Zodiac and ALA could be established in setting ALA up as the patsy to deter from the real people involved.

Other ciphered messages from the DB Cooper group brings us right back to Marilyn Monroe, Hoffa, Kennedy's, Nembitol and other frequently seen messages found from pre-Zodiac era communications. I really need to sit down and put all this together in chronological order to see if it helps to seal one message to another.

Harriette believes that the base meaning of Spiro Agnew relates directly to the Zodiac symbol, and that this was his call out. Certainly Spiro was around during WWII just like Jack, and he circled many of the areas involved in the Zodiac/entire crime spree as to the involvement of politicians/mob/gambling and handlers. Very scary stuff! This may again elude to why the Ghost Killer of Atlanta Georgia indicated that, "politicians were running around with their heads cut off like chickens." to paraphrase!



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Donna Lass or was there a "Lass" Hospital? I think that I already know the answer on this.

The Ramsey ransom note has multiple messages and any written document can be used to carry, contain and hold one or more messages, if you have the key or keys needed. Those zigzag patterns would be the type of key needed. One would have to have the patience of trial and error in the use and exploration of the key or keys.

ALA would have fit the profile of an unwitting accomplice in some of the Zodiac era events. John Mark Karr fully fits the profile of an accomplice in the Ramsey case, but the evidence shows that he was  much more "witting" than it did with Arthur Leigh Allen. However, I don't believe that either person was fully aware of how they were being used and manipulated. 

BTW, you can also see how the zigzag decoding pattern is being alluded to in the Cooper/NORJAK "Hospitality" letter and envelope.

I can state with certainty that ALL of the cases that we study, show evidence that they were all paramilitary operations.

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The DB Cooper letter sent December 1971 addressed to Membership Secretary United States Parachute Association reads per Harriette:

TO POLICE D, CHRONICLE NEWSPAPER, CTY R(E)PORTER HERB C IN SAN FRANCISCO-
I.O. M.O. ZODIAC IN L BERRY(E)SSA SUIT NAP(A) CO 41 6' 187LB 4 DC JFK (and) DC BRO(TH)ER BOBBY TOO-TARRANCE

Be right back need to verify something...

Via Washington Post February 2, 1997: Herb Caen, 80, the longtime San Francisco newspaper local columnist whose six-decade-long effort to report on the city's fans, foibles and fables made him something of a national institution, died of cancer yesterday at a San Francisco hospital.

He began writing his six-day-a-week column for the San Francisco Chronicle in 1938. He wrote for the San Francisco Examiner from 1950 to 1958, then returned to the Chronicle, where he worked until his death.


It shows that Herb Caen was in fact working for the Chronicle in 1971. Interesting since this helps to confirm that the decoded message is correct to this degree... Go Harriette!

Now this makes me rethink Debra Perez appearing on the steps of the Chronicle to deliver her fake attempt at media blitzing America with yet more lies in the Zodiac case, and why the Chronicle gave her any energy or time, but have never looked into Dennis' assertions about Jack. SFPD was right on this boat as well and they are being called out in the letter as well!


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